Choco
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Post by Choco on May 7, 2018 18:59:57 GMT
Here's a place to talk about Feora1.
Some feel that she is a dark horse. I am one of those, especially I think she would be good into Ret infantry swarms and well, other non-heavy infantry based lists.
She has some synergy problems like no Hierophant in Guardians. She has lots of personal threat range in both ranged and melee. She also has a solid (imo) all around spell list that covers many areas all at once.
I personally think that she is criminally underplayed. I have been debating heavily about taking her in a pairing to Lock and Load. Not sure who to pair with, but it would be fun.
What are your thoughts?
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Post by macdaddy on May 7, 2018 19:10:42 GMT
I feel she has some merit. She looks kind of toolboxy to me. She has a hilarious threat with engine of destruction. She has a cute unjamming spell, A nifty spell denial spell, a damage buff (which is always nice) and an infantry control wall template. Her feat seems pretty hit or miss. In some games Auto cont fire is going to wreck someones day, in others, it will be meaningless.
Auto cont fire into most current heavy infantry builds seems strong though. As long as trolls are playing Storm of the north and not band of heroes. Because normal krieslton says no to your feat.
If I owned more flame-guard models I would give her a shot.
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on May 7, 2018 19:40:10 GMT
I'll repeat what I said in the other thread: I've found that you almost have to treat Engine of Destruction as a feat. It can win games for you when you get it right. paradox told me that that was kind've correct, and said that you have to treat her melee threat as a feat and this makes a lot of sense to me. Because in my experience, if you over expose her, she dies quite quickly. |
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Post by paradox on May 7, 2018 19:56:46 GMT
Yeah. 15/17 is solid, but shes a few damage points short of most othet beaters. Any KD really hoses her, so Book is hard not to take. Most folks look at her and see a frontline melee beater. So they try to missile her in. But any melee commitment needs to be a caster kill, really. Thats just her surface level, though. Wall of Fire, Blazing Effigy, Hex Hammer, and sprays all enable a more toolboxy approach. Stay midline. Use tools to block off or clear jams. Snipe put front pieces or chip damage with sprays. Feat where you can. Drop Ignite on your beaters. She can play attrition and control decently well, while always pressuring a kill at a respectable range.
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Post by catulle on May 19, 2018 0:02:23 GMT
So all that said, and assuming that GotT is her "home theme" do people feel that Flamebringers, Daughters and/or TFG are the places to double up for her to thrive? I'd love to enjoy cleansers but... just... can't.
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Post by paradox on May 19, 2018 1:24:05 GMT
So all that said, and assuming that GotT is her "home theme" do people feel that Flamebringers, Daughters and/or TFG are the places to double up for her to thrive? I'd love to enjoy cleansers but... just... can't. Flamebringers. One unit of daughters to Ambush. If yer gonna double up anywhere, Flamebringers. |
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chuggyg
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Post by chuggyg on May 19, 2018 12:07:36 GMT
I think her place is going to be in Exemplar Interdiction, since the access to Sev0 and the Warder are going to let her A) actually hit things and B) play forward My list is probably going to look something like this... conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0E0-eV9x9xlUk9lM9x2d302q2mbQProtectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Exemplar Interdiction !!! Your army contains CID entries. (Feora 1) Feora, Priestess of the Flame [+31] - Hand of Judgment [18] - Repenter [8] - Repenter [8] - Exemplar Warder [0(5)] Exemplar Warder Elias Gade [5] Scrutator Potentate Severius [0(6)] - Repenter [8] - Vanquisher [17] Choir of Menoth (max) [6] Exemplar Bastions (max) [16] Exemplar Errants (max) [16] - Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard [4] Probably don't need that many repenters. Will likely swap 2 of them out for another heavy. |
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Hashmal
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Post by Hashmal on May 20, 2018 15:55:12 GMT
EI is going to be strong with Feora1. Opposing single model infantry absolutely hate coming in on her forces because of her Feat. No, it's not super effective. But it could be, and that deterrent is often enough to force them to wave in on you. Exactly the type of playstyle that EI eats for breakfast.
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Choco
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Post by Choco on May 24, 2018 18:00:48 GMT
Well, played a game against Stryker1. I killed him with flame throwers from HoJ and Feora, but he was just out of 5 inches for the extra damage. Also found out that Ignited, Battle Driven Knights Exemplar on the charge, with their mini feat, can 2-shot an Avenger. Yeah, it took only 2 Knights to kill a completely untouched Avenger. So the more I think about it, the more I need to test her in EI. With the changes to Bastions and Cinerators, you are looking at an excellent Feora Delivery System that can hold its own in the middle of the board. Maybe something like this: conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0E0-1SeVl-3BlX2slS2mbQ2jfV2jfVProtectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Exemplar Interdiction !!! Your army contains CID entries. (Feora 1) Feora, Priestess of the Flame [+31] - Castigator [12] - Hand of Judgment [18] Exemplar Bastion Seneschal [0(6)] Wrack [1] Exemplar Bastions (max) [15] Exemplar Cinerators (max) [16] - Exemplar Cinerator Officer [0(6)] Exemplar Errants (max) [16] - Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard [4] Knights Exemplar [9] - Knights Exemplar Officer [0(5)] Knights Exemplar [9] - Knights Exemplar Officer [5] With this list she can hot swap Ignite around and play back, only stepping up to flame something out of the way as needed. Her battlegroup would be more of a support piece until late game while you jam hard with the Errants (giving them Ignite actually seems good for when you finally jam/charge with them). The rest of the list just keeps moving forward, making sure to keep Feora behind them until you need her to do more than cast spells and spray stuff. A very different play style option for her. |
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chuggyg
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Post by chuggyg on May 25, 2018 0:24:03 GMT
What are you using the bastion seneschal for? He's not terribly good and you can pick something else as the free points and use the 5 to upgrade a warjack or add an attachment to feora
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on May 25, 2018 6:55:54 GMT
I think he's being used as the CID version, which gives out tactician, which is good.
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Post by Provengreil on May 26, 2018 13:11:52 GMT
A note on trolls: denying fire means less armor. So your troops will get them, or the feat will: double threats are good
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Choco
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Post by Choco on May 29, 2018 16:13:12 GMT
I think he's being used as the CID version, which gives out tactician, which is good. , This^. His leadership ability is just icing on the cake. |
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Post by paradox on May 31, 2018 22:24:44 GMT
Current dojo I might slap on the table. Will reevaluate once we have final EI rules later this summer.
Theme: The Faithful Masses
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Feora, Priestess of the Flame - WJ: +31
- Hierophant - PC: 3
- Hand of Judgment - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 18)
- Templar - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
Avatar of Menoth - PC: 20
Wrack - PC: 1
Wrack - PC: 1
The Covenant of Menoth - PC: 4
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon - PC: 0
Champion of the Order of the Wall - PC: 8
- Champion of the Order of the Wall (Continued)
Champion of the Order of the Wall - PC: 8
- Champion of the Order of the Wall (Continued)
Paladin of the Order of the Wall - PC: 4
Paladin of the Order of the Wall - PC: 4
Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4
Idrian Skirmishers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
- Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide - Chieftain & Guide: 0
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Choco
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Post by Choco on May 31, 2018 22:41:14 GMT
Looks really interesting. More of a super solo list with Idrian support. The ultimate super solo being the Avatar or Feora of course. My only question is why no Vassal of Menoth?
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