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Post by oncomingstorm on May 3, 2018 5:54:49 GMT
It was mentioned in the Exemplar CID dev talk, and is the hot topic in our Facebook group right now. [br And it pissed off 2 circle players...the salt is making me thirsty...and I am a circle player who thinks you Ret needed one before any other faction. So good for you guys, maybe you'll get the Wold treatment Ret did not need a CID until the Themepocalypse. And I say that as a Retribution player, too. The problems with Ret are a;most entirely theme based. Circle salt is 100% about the announcement that the Tharn CID is up to 3 months away, not less than a month as was initially thought.
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Post by falkman on May 3, 2018 10:20:16 GMT
I just listened to the Dev talk myself, and what they say is that they will look at and make small touches to all the existing Ret themes (they mention model inclusion), and also look at a few legacy models from each theme. Really looking forward to this, Exemplar CID will run for 2 1/2 weeks so hopefully the Ret CID will arrive at the end of May.
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Post by HubertJFarnsworth on May 3, 2018 11:17:02 GMT
Honestly I'd ask they did was fix theme inclusion and benefits I'd be pretty happy. I just want a reason to take infantry that aren't Halbs or Stormfalls in DoI and the ability to take character jacks.
If they're going to touch models I'd love to see Ravyn retooled top to bottom but if that's not in-scope I don't have a ton of specific model complaints. Moros maybe, I struggle to find a home for him.
Either way, exciting stuff. Honestly I'm more excited about this than I would be about a CID with new models that only looks at Dawnguard.
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Post by elladan52 on May 3, 2018 11:38:53 GMT
Give Thyron flashing blade, solve my 2 heavy problem!
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Post by wasted79 on May 3, 2018 16:27:23 GMT
I would like to see medium base models with 5 boxes someday. A little resilience in-faction that benefit for Lys Healer
Almost all other factions got one or more 5 boxes units, should make sense to get at least one for Ret.
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Post by Munindk on May 4, 2018 6:27:40 GMT
If tweaking model inclusion in themes will allow us to run combined arms again, and get free pts for it, I wont ask for more (at this time).
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Post by HubertJFarnsworth on May 4, 2018 14:15:55 GMT
I'm just going to go in looking for good changes to Themes to make list building more interesting again and any model changes will be gravy.
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Post by falkman on May 4, 2018 14:18:00 GMT
Opening up Forges to allow Vyre jacks and changing the Defenders AM bonus to apply to all melee units would go a long way.
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Post by elladan52 on May 4, 2018 14:23:20 GMT
Opening up Forges to allow Vyre jacks and changing the Defenders AM bonus to apply to all melee units would go a long way. likelikelikelikelikelikelike
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Post by wasted79 on May 4, 2018 15:10:54 GMT
The fact our jacks roster is already shorter than most factions and we have it split in half is constraining a lot
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Post by psycomonky on May 7, 2018 19:25:20 GMT
Personally I have through the solution should be to modify the merc clause to say 'may include two models/units that would normally be allowed in a retributino army outside of theme benefits'. Want a char jack, sure that is one of your slots Rhan wants a feat outside of forges of war, sure two units of battle mages in defenders, Want an artificer in the dawnguard theme, sure, thats a slot.
That would open up list building in huge ways and allow retribution to have some flexibility in the insanely constrictive themes that exist currently.
Make defenders bonuses apply to other units. If it is just one unit per X then that is fine but allow the benefit to cover multiple things. Fix the dawnguard theme such that marshaled jacks count towards free points. This is foolish where taking the benefit of one benefit causes the other to no longer fit. Allow houseguard models in forges of war base.
And fix poor goreshade. He was DOA. Lots of fixes for him please. But mostly, the first thing.
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Post by belgambit on May 8, 2018 12:15:11 GMT
Opening up Forges to allow Vyre jacks and changing the Defenders AM bonus to apply to all melee units would go a long way. Opening up Forges to all Shyeel Myrmidons, including characters, would probably do the trick while keeping the flavor.
In Defenders, AM on X number of units per Y points would also be more interesting to me than a flat AM on melee. Starting Riflemen, Stormfall Archers, or HRTs on basically the AD line would be interesting.
Maybe give all officers/leaders of small based Dawnguard units 'Jack Marshall in Legion of Dawn.
Instead of +1 to starting roll, allow one unit in Shadows to Ambush...
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Post by streetpizza on May 10, 2018 18:36:44 GMT
Marhsalled jacks should count towards free points in Legion of Dawn
Defenders should be 1 unit without ranged weapons gets AM per heavy warjack taken
Forges should be both types of jacks without caster limitation.
Shadows should give ambush to one unit of infiltrators
All themes except shadows should allow for up two models/units with the mage hunter designation to be taken in that theme. The faction is the retribution not Ios damnit!
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Post by elladan52 on May 10, 2018 18:49:52 GMT
Marhsalled jacks should count towards free points in Legion of Dawn Defenders should be 1 unit without ranged weapons gets AM per heavy warjack taken Forges should be both types of jacks without caster limitation. Shadows should give ambush to one unit of infiltrators All themes except shadows should allow for up two models/units with the mage hunter designation to be taken in that theme. The faction is the retribution not Ios damnit! The ambush rule in shadows is definitely not happening, I am confident of that. I'm 90% sure that Infiltrators will get a CA that lets them Ambush, though. Unless they specify a unit of infiltrators with no CA can ambush, because ambushing Eiryss3 is insane.
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Post by Gaston on May 10, 2018 19:52:11 GMT
Marhsalled jacks should count towards free points in Legion of Dawn Defenders should be 1 unit without ranged weapons gets AM per heavy warjack taken Forges should be both types of jacks without caster limitation. Shadows should give ambush to one unit of infiltrators All themes except shadows should allow for up two models/units with the mage hunter designation to be taken in that theme. The faction is the retribution not Ios damnit! The ambush rule in shadows is definitely not happening, I am confident of that. I'm 90% sure that Infiltrators will get a CA that lets them Ambush, though. Unless they specify a unit of infiltrators with no CA can ambush, because ambushing Eiryss3 is insane. Non-character unit gains ambush? Would that preclude her?
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