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Post by dirtyharrypotter on Mar 27, 2018 8:06:33 GMT
So for the fun and sake of it, let's assume for a bit themes were never a thing but the CID rework is. Much has changed since, so would you go back to your favourite mkII list and rework those with all the CID upgrades? Did new avenues open up? Will deathstalkers again be a part of most of your lists (I miss having them around)? What are those combo's or supportpieces you really want to put out there, but don't dare going out of theme for?
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unded
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Post by unded on Mar 27, 2018 10:43:52 GMT
For me deathstalkers are definitely the biggest loss in theme-world. I don't like Ravens, and deathstalkers cannot go anywhere else.
Aside from that, just a general mix of things that themes preclude:
- Azrael with Lyly2 plus ravagore(s) - Typhon with, just, everyone now that he's reasonably priced. OK, I exaggerate - mostly I want him with Vayl2. - Raptors + swordies + blightblades. I really miss this combo. - Full complement of beasts + Raptors
That's the short list. So much freedom that themes kil... christ I loathe themes. I feel like we're all playing a really good game but there's a truly great game being kept out of reach by the awful theme implementation.
-und_ed
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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 27, 2018 10:46:40 GMT
Abby2 with Typhon, Hellmouths and DeathStalkers like the good old days
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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 27, 2018 10:47:11 GMT
Fill compliment of beasts and Raptors can be accomplished in Thags CoTD
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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 27, 2018 10:47:22 GMT
Fill compliment of beasts and Raptors can be accomplished in Thags CoTD
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Post by rhonlore on Mar 27, 2018 10:56:19 GMT
Rhyas, Sigil of Everblight - WB: +30 - Seraph - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Proteus - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Zuriel - PC: 18
Throne of Everblight - PC: 16
Fyanna the Lash - PC: 5 Craelix, Fang of Everblight - PC: 6
Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 6 Blighted Nyss Swordsmen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Abbot & Champion - Abbot & Champion: 6
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I've played this list on a few occasions and will probably be bringing it to the SOO to play in Champions. It's super fun. YMMV.
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Post by jansuza on Mar 27, 2018 11:11:16 GMT
I really enjoyed my Fyanna list I was playing with right before the themepocalypse came out.
Fyanna Neraph Angelius Proteus Seraph Raek Raek Forsaekn Shepherd Nyss Warlord Full Swordsmen
It felt like each one of Fyanna's spells worked perfectly in this list. Admonition on the Angel, hot-swap Fury from the Neraph to Proteus each round, and eventually to the swordsmen, and iron skin on the swords to keep them going. I generally just love Proteus but don't always want to play Abby.
Almost each game I played was finished the turn after feating when the PS14 swordsmen went in and cleared off everything. I think it was still when Fyanna was new and people didn't know how to play against her yet, so may be a bit biased now.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Mar 27, 2018 12:08:32 GMT
"hello dead horse" said the club.
I DO play out of theme. I talk about it quite a lot (probably too much if you ask around)
Kryssa, Fyanna, Lylyth 1, Vayl 1 (WIP), and Rhyas. Thagrosh1 + Kallus 2 were out of theme until PT dropped.
Reasons being: Kryssa - utility in Strider Scouts. Damage output with swordsmen. Golab is just going to be too good as a Pow17 WM. Fyanna - Infantry wants a Blightbringer. Raptors can go up to Def 19 vs shooting. Legionnnaires get to Def 15 Arm 24 no KD. Lylyth - Archangel + parasite + new animus is bonkers. Though the list existed as such before the CiD Vayl 1 - Typhon + AA Rhyas - Proteus and the throne make stupid use of the feat placement
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unded
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Post by unded on Mar 27, 2018 13:46:39 GMT
Fill compliment of beasts and Raptors can be accomplished in Thags CoTD Nope. That requires Typhon / Azrael / Zuriel. Where are my Angelii? Seraph? Ravagores / Carniveans / Scytheans? -und_ed
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Post by copperflame on Mar 27, 2018 13:53:15 GMT
I have taken up 'out of theme' as at least an option here and there. As far as what I would run if Themepocalypse never happened? - Deathstalker x2 all day every day. I am wondering if Golab will be added to Ravens - it could use the heavy hitter and really invigorate that theme.
- Typhon with K2, Vayl2, Vayl1 - especially Abby1 post CID.
- Proteus with K2, Thag2 and especially Rhyas.
- Hellmouth whenever I needed a contesting unit for my beast heavy lists.
I'm sure there are more that I can't think of right now.
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gordo
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Post by gordo on Mar 27, 2018 16:16:23 GMT
So I just went ahead and gave myself an extra 16ish points because I feel like that would be the minimum I would be playing down, probably more in the better themes:
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - Vayl1 with cheating cuz themes
Theme: No Theme Selected 92 / 75 Army
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Vayl, Disciple of Everblight - WB: +27 - Naga Nightlurker - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8) - Seraph - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Angelius - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 5) - Angelius - PC: 17 - Typhon - PC: 20
Grotesque Assassin - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion - PC: 6 The Forsaken - PC: 4 The Forsaken - PC: 4
Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 6 Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 6 Grotesque Banshees - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13
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GENERATED : 03/27/2018 12:13:17 BUILD ID : 2061.18-02-21
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Post by davycannonhound on Mar 28, 2018 0:41:20 GMT
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - Themes Suck
Theme: No Theme Selected 75 / 75 Army
Rhyas, Sigil of Everblight - WB: +30 - Seraph - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Zuriel - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Scythean - PC: 16
Blighted Nyss Warlord - PC: 5 Blighted Nyss Warlord - PC: 5 Grotesque Assassin - PC: 4 Strider Deathstalker - PC: 4 The Forsaken - PC: 4 Strider Deathstalker - PC: 4 Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1
Strider Blightblades - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10 Blighted Ogrun Warspears - Leader & 4 Grunts: 15 - Warspear Chieftain - PC: 5
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GENERATED : 03/27/2018 19:40:28 BUILD ID : 2061.18-02-21
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thelat
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Post by thelat on Mar 28, 2018 18:16:37 GMT
I run out of theme a lot. I like having the Blackfrost Shard and the Blightbringer and Ogrun.
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