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Post by redbaron89 on Mar 23, 2018 5:46:13 GMT
Very interested in knowing more about anthony gibb's 5x5 list consisting of 5 hunters, 5 minutemen, and aiyana/holt/murdoch and his 4 centurion sott list (dont know exact list).
Learned about them listening to fear the swan podcast and it was an intriguing listen. Seems to be doing well at adepticon.
Played 5x5 list into lylyth 1 today against one of the better people in my meta. Won via assasination after a very tough game but the list was awesome and a blast to play!
Sloan hm wj 28 5x5 list Squire free Hunterx5 50 Minutemenx5 45 Strangeways free A+H 8 Murdoch free
First off...everything has long leash so sloan is free to pump a boosted weaponmaster shot into something face and refuge to safety from back lines. Minutemen ad and mulch infantey between flakfield and boosted rat 6 double taps. Sloan typically struggles with infantry so this is a good thing. Hunters handle heavies and lights. Aiyana and holt + murdoch provide damage buff with kiss and score circle zones. Squire and strangeways provide extra focus as needed.Lots of assasination potential with this list.
Next up will be the kraye 1 4 centurion sott list... ive got a few varients i want to try but dont know the exact list until it gets posted to discount games or facebook.
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Post by jagius021 on Mar 23, 2018 14:57:39 GMT
Very interesting, time to proxy! I normally run kraye in heavy metal but sott does sound like fun, mostly for the tempest blazers
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Post by Juris on Mar 23, 2018 16:01:13 GMT
Very interesting, time to proxy! I normally run kraye in heavy metal but sott does sound like fun, mostly for the tempest blazers The main benefit for SoT is that you can bring Ragman and you can bring Falk (for the Rune Marked +2 damage) and Arlan to make a Jack's weapons magical. Also, Black13th are excellent choices for the Gremlin Swarm filled meta at the moment.
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Post by slinkdawg on Mar 23, 2018 19:39:46 GMT
Very interested in knowing more about anthony gibb's 5x5 list consisting of 5 hunters, 5 minutemen, and aiyana/holt/murdoch and his 4 centurion sott list (dont know exact list). Learned about them listening to fear the swan podcast and it was an intriguing listen. Seems to be doing well at adepticon. Played 5x5 list into lylyth 1 today against one of the better people in my meta. Won via assasination after a very tough game but the list was awesome and a blast to play! Sloan hm wj 28 5x5 list Squire free Hunterx5 50 Minutemenx5 45 Strangeways free A+H 8 Murdoch free First off...everything has long leash so sloan is free to pump a boosted weaponmaster shot into something face and refuge to safety from back lines. Minutemen ad and mulch infantey between flakfield and boosted rat 6 double taps. Sloan typically struggles with infantry so this is a good thing. Hunters handle heavies and lights. Aiyana and holt + murdoch provide damage buff with kiss and score circle zones. Squire and strangeways provide extra focus as needed.Lots of assasination potential with this list. Next up will be the kraye 1 4 centurion sott list... ive got a few varients i want to try but dont know the exact list until it gets posted to discount games or facebook. The Sloan list has some great tech into matchups like Kallus1 because flak field is not an attack. Effects that trigger on enemy attacks can be bypassed. The Kraye list is really interesting. He brings ragman, Aiyana, and strangewayes with Falk to allow centurions a potential +6 damage swing... in Cygnar!!! Generally, you want to go first with that Kraye list and be able to set the line of engagement. Certain lists like the gaspy3 list with all the slayers can still be hard to piece trade into. I like his lists a lot, very interesting concepts.
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Post by Hashmal on Mar 24, 2018 19:40:26 GMT
The lists are super solid. I have been playing against them for a couple of months now. So glad to see Anthony finally getting props. His lists have always been pretty inspired.
Basically those lists cover a lot of Cygnar bugbears. Sloan is his main squeeze into most things while Kraye handles more focused heavy spam lists. Sloan 5x5 plays into Khador heavy spam pretty okay, but isn't crazy about Gaspy3 Slayer Spam. But that's where Kraye comes in. Repositioning Polarity Shield Centurions suck. I know that Sloan list has already forced me into Amon for a tourney we have in a month.
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Post by Hashmal on Mar 24, 2018 20:00:37 GMT
For reference, here is the Kraye list.
Cygnar - Kraye 4 Centurions
Theme: Sons of the Tempest 1 / 1 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Captain Jeremiah Kraye - WJ: +28 - Squire - PC: 0 - Centurion - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 17) - Centurion - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11) - Centurion - PC: 17 - Centurion - PC: 17
Captain Arlan Strangewayes - PC: 4 Ragman - PC: 4 Lieutenant Bastian Falk - PC: 5
Black 13th Strike Force - Lynch, Ryan, & Watts: 10 Lady Aiyana & Master Holt - Lady Aiyana & Master Holt: 8 - Captain Jonas Murdoch - PC: 4
THEME: Sons of the Tempest
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Post by xadmar on Mar 26, 2018 16:44:08 GMT
For reference, here is the Kraye list. Cygnar - Kraye 4 Centurions Theme: Sons of the Tempest 1 / 1 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Captain Jeremiah Kraye - WJ: +28 - Squire - PC: 0 - Centurion - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 17) - Centurion - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11) - Centurion - PC: 17 - Centurion - PC: 17 Captain Arlan Strangewayes - PC: 4 Ragman - PC: 4 Lieutenant Bastian Falk - PC: 5 Black 13th Strike Force - Lynch, Ryan, & Watts: 10 Lady Aiyana & Master Holt - Lady Aiyana & Master Holt: 8 - Captain Jonas Murdoch - PC: 4 THEME: Sons of the Tempest So I see you want to play this into 9 Slayers but how can it win vs them? I am not experienced with Kraye at all and have never played SoT or looked at Falks more then once. From doing a few numbers it seems like there is not enough focus/damage to do enough to the slayers on alpha to actually kill more then 2/3. Then it takes 2/3ish slayers to take out a cent with combo strike and calamity. With slayers having speed 6/8 with buffs they can walk and threaten 9 inches so you repo 5 and your still possibly not out of threat. What am I missing?
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Post by GYF on Mar 26, 2018 17:24:13 GMT
Anthony's been getting (gingerly) on board the Haley III train, and I imagine he'd be working on being happy with her into Lich, though I often end up with a slightly different take on Cygnar than his, so perhaps that isn't his assessment. I know that Sloan list has already forced me into Amon for a tourney we have in a month. I find this slightly insulting, I think.
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Post by Hashmal on Mar 26, 2018 18:19:53 GMT
I have gotten a few reps with him with Haley3. It's solid and is likely to replace Kraye.
Nemo3 trends me towards Amon, but that Sloan list seals the deal. If I don't have mass Passage I'ma gonna get rekt.
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Post by GYF on Mar 26, 2018 18:55:43 GMT
I'm just saying, there's a lot of bracket between you and a showdown with 5x5.
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Post by Hashmal on Mar 26, 2018 19:33:25 GMT
Totally! But people like playing Cygnar so I have to account for it in my pair. Edit: of course, if someone were to take him out early... Edit2: And I actually just checked the brackets to find out my information is, like, way out of date. I originally had us as a possible pair in Round 2, should I not just completely donk it round one (likely).
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Post by redbaron89 on Mar 26, 2018 22:00:52 GMT
*Hears pacific rim music* Just got most my orders in from amazon. Ill be playing the kraye 1 list mentioned above tomorrow. Hopefully get to play it into child with 3 skin/3 ragers and battle engine
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Post by Gamingdevil on Mar 27, 2018 7:53:31 GMT
So I see you want to play this into 9 Slayers but how can it win vs them? I am not experienced with Kraye at all and have never played SoT or looked at Falks more then once. From doing a few numbers it seems like there is not enough focus/damage to do enough to the slayers on alpha to actually kill more then 2/3. Then it takes 2/3ish slayers to take out a cent with combo strike and calamity. With slayers having speed 6/8 with buffs they can walk and threaten 9 inches so you repo 5 and your still possibly not out of threat. What am I missing? There's only 1 Calamity to go around and it's not that likely to be within walk range of 2, let alone 3 Slayers. Even if you are, that will just mean the Slayers are bunched up and you can get them next turn. Also don't forget that Kraye has Admonition, so it's really hard to pin those Centurions down. If your opponent doesn't have repairs available, it's also enough to cripple cortex and/or one of the arms to make the Slayers near useless as they can't combo with 1 arm.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Mar 27, 2018 9:52:58 GMT
So I see you want to play this into 9 Slayers but how can it win vs them? I am not experienced with Kraye at all and have never played SoT or looked at Falks more then once. From doing a few numbers it seems like there is not enough focus/damage to do enough to the slayers on alpha to actually kill more then 2/3. Then it takes 2/3ish slayers to take out a cent with combo strike and calamity. With slayers having speed 6/8 with buffs they can walk and threaten 9 inches so you repo 5 and your still possibly not out of threat. What am I missing? There's only 1 Calamity to go around and it's not that likely to be within walk range of 2, let alone 3 Slayers. Even if you are, that will just mean the Slayers are bunched up and you can get them next turn. Also don't forget that Kraye has Admonition, so it's really hard to pin those Centurions down. If your opponent doesn't have repairs available, it's also enough to cripple cortex and/or one of the arms to make the Slayers near useless as they can't combo with 1 arm. Remember Lich 3 has Hex Blast, so Admonition is not guaranteed
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Post by Gamingdevil on Mar 27, 2018 11:16:29 GMT
There's only 1 Calamity to go around and it's not that likely to be within walk range of 2, let alone 3 Slayers. Even if you are, that will just mean the Slayers are bunched up and you can get them next turn. Also don't forget that Kraye has Admonition, so it's really hard to pin those Centurions down. If your opponent doesn't have repairs available, it's also enough to cripple cortex and/or one of the arms to make the Slayers near useless as they can't combo with 1 arm. Remember Lich 3 has Hex Blast, so Admonition is not guaranteed You're right, but then he either has DJ to cast that for him, or there's no Calamity, or there's not a lot of focus to go around. In the latter case, that definitely means that Slayers will be bunched up, because he needs multiple and you have an efficient counter punch.
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