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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 18, 2018 21:37:07 GMT
Hey all! Thought it would be fun to do a little log of my torunament prep for Welsh Masters in May. I ain't gonna pretend this isn't for my own benefit but still, might be of interest for others.
So far I have come up with my 3 lists and will be applying Banky's Law so will not make any changes to lists until I have played that variant ten times.
The lists...
Ok initial three list lineup...
Thags1 CotD
Succubus
Typhon
Zuriel
Azrael
Raptors x2
Mist Speaker
Craelix
Shepherd x3
Martyr
If they don't have heavy shooting or lots of RFP this is my main.
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Lylyth3 Oracles
Carni x2
Angelius x2
Seraph
Naga
Shepherd x2
Feralgeist
Forsaken x2
Hellion
Valkyries
Anti shooting and sort of anti N3mo. Normal anti N3mo has more Carniveans and I will be paying attention to the possibility of swapping the Angels to Carniveans but for now I like the 16" threat of the AP.
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Vayl2 Oracles
Succubus
Carnivean x3
Bloodseer
Throne x2
Mist Speaker
Hellion x2
Shepherd x3
Gobbers
Anti Cryx and anti infantry spam.
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So wish me luck!
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twity
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Post by twity on Mar 19, 2018 11:28:22 GMT
Good luck!
What is the mist speaker in CotD for? I feel like I am missing something obvious.
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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 19, 2018 11:51:46 GMT
Only access to magic weapons and giving Craelix eyeless sight is massive.
Plus, giving the odd raptor the ability to charge through a cloud is sometimes useful.
Specifically against Denny2 in a Champs tournament I had a spare Raptor so gave it eyeless and it charged her through the theme benefit cloud and with magic weapons was able to hurt her.
Missed the attack though 😎
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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 21, 2018 9:25:34 GMT
Two games last night taking my games to:
Thags1: 3
Vayl2: 1
Lylyth3: 0
Thags1 vs Old Witch 3(?)
Played vs Rob McCormick and basically got out attritioned. I came up a couple of boxes short on a couple jacks and that did for me. I learned some neat tricks and was able to get lots of work from Typhon in combining sprays with melee and some neat Azrael play.
I need to learn to use the Raptors better. Lining then up for slams is bad.
Vayl2 vs Denny3
This was vs Chris Daker who is running Denny1/2/3 for Welsh (maybe) and he was playing Satyxis theme. Thrones killed 18 on one turn and basically after two turns he was left with Kraken and Denny and tbh he did a lot of work with them but scenario was over by that point.
So far I like the lists but I may not have a solid Khador answer, just a sort-of one. Dodge Khador 2018 continues...
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Post by jansuza on Mar 21, 2018 12:09:41 GMT
No Bolt Thrower with Lylyth? I find it's so useful with her. Being able to get to AD things turn 1, and threaten much further in general is just so good with her.
I also find it's quite useful vs the Khador matchup. It means you can shoot the carnivean and seraph at a heavy with their max range 10, then shunt the heavy back out of threat range with the bolt thrower afterwards.
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Post by voidbender on Mar 21, 2018 12:54:18 GMT
No Bolt Thrower with Lylyth? I find it's so useful with her. I go back and forth on this myself. I personally won't go for an assassination with Lylyth alone unless my opponent is really careless, and if my other pieces are close enough to contribute then Lylyth3 has no issue with her threat range. On the other hand, my opponent doesn't know that and giving them more to think about is a good thing. Thunderbolting Khador jacks is fun, but between their heavy armor and the winterguard sac pawn theme I haven't seen Khador as a good matchup for Lylyth3 in general. |
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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 21, 2018 14:23:11 GMT
That's where I am coming from too. It'd be Thags it Vayl into them depending on how squishy the caster is.
I aim to dodge jackspam.
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Post by yourmumrang on Mar 29, 2018 11:54:57 GMT
Ok two more games to report...
Thags into Trolls (Doomie2)
Mulg and Mountain King spent a good few turns holding hands so I couldn't get Twisted form off. He decides to just position and hold his feat to start scenario. Just sits outside of my threat and says cone at me bro.
I manage to hold off until he gets bored and charges Mulg into my objective and doesn't kill it so can't overrun into 3" of MK.
It's go time so I land Twisted Form and get Azrael and Raptors into MK and don't kill it but it's going to be limited on output.
Unfortunately I leave Thags camping 4 in a dodgy position with a Succubus/Mist Speaker cloudwall in front. Sadly there is a little gap between my forest and clouds and Doomie gets a debuff off, kills the succubus and then Mulg gets I to me and eats me.
Thags vs Locke (CoC)
Weird game where he threats a million miles with Jackhammer (he has a chance to kill Thags early on so we pause clock and he has a go and leaves Thags on 2).
We trade and cos I manage a cheeky oblit through a Martyr on his Corollary and kill the arc node he has to expose Locke to do some work and leaves him open to 3 Raptors charging when he camps 2. I leave him on two boxes (cos one raptor rolls 1/1/2/2 on charge) but that's basically a luck loss so don't feel bad about it.
I worry about how Thags probably isn't as good as Abby2 for the matchups I want him for but I will persevere.
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