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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Mar 8, 2018 9:44:32 GMT
So seeing as Mercs are getting a new warjack in the Toro, how do you feel it fares against the staple Nomad.
They are identical stat and weapon wise, the only difference is the Toro has a Shield and Countercharge and no reliable, for the cost of 2 points more. the idea of having a bunch with Magnus 2 making them arm 22 in melee with countercharge seems nice |
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Post by shoe on Mar 8, 2018 15:21:34 GMT
also it cant throw stuff
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Post by Choco on Mar 8, 2018 19:58:33 GMT
I still think the Nomad is universally better than the Toro in Mercs. The Toro has a weird niche but it's with like, 2 casters (Mags2 and Bartolo), for some armor skew shenanigans. The counter charging part is cute, but I feel it needs something to enhance that or give it some other reason to bring along. Heavy Boiler, Pathfinder, more hit boxes, more DEF or ARM. The options are there, but it's not making itself more appealing than a Nomad or even a Mangler (open fist, chain weapon with reach and thresher and one more base armor).
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Post by isotope on Mar 8, 2018 20:30:43 GMT
I'd like to try one with ashlynn. No knockdown, pathfinder, admonition all really help get those countercharges off.
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Post by Xintas on Mar 8, 2018 21:44:49 GMT
I was pretty underwhelmed. For 2 points, I want another point of MAT or some stronger abilities.
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Post by psyllus on Mar 9, 2018 0:45:20 GMT
I'm pretty happy with it. It fills in a space in our melee jack options between the Nomad and the Mangler, while adding a new tool, counter-charge, to our kit.
I plan to try them first with Magnus2 to mix up the existing Nomad spam, going for a 50/50 mix of Nomads and Toros. That'll let me run a front line of Nomads with a line of Toros behind them to counter-charge anything that moves to engage the Nomads.
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Post by Charistoph on Mar 9, 2018 2:17:51 GMT
The real question is how its going to work with Rutger Shaw...
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Post by psyllus on Mar 9, 2018 2:28:22 GMT
The real question is how its going to work with Rutger Shaw... Yes, and ARM 20 makes a rather effective Shield Guard. |
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Post by Xintas on Mar 9, 2018 14:55:33 GMT
For that many points, I'd rather have Brun and Lug.
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Post by Choco on Mar 9, 2018 17:10:28 GMT
I was pretty underwhelmed. For 2 points, I want another point of MAT or some stronger abilities. I would love the extra MAT, but with Prospero, I don't think they will do that. |
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Post by Soul Samurai on Mar 9, 2018 19:35:15 GMT
The real question is how its going to work with Rutger Shaw... Indeed, I wonder if we'll get Rex as a character Toro someday? |
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Post by Choco on Mar 9, 2018 21:18:24 GMT
The real question is how its going to work with Rutger Shaw... Indeed, I wonder if we'll get Rex as a character Toro someday? It has been confirmed and it was strongly hinted that he is an upgrade kit (barf). |
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Post by Zeykk on Mar 9, 2018 21:24:53 GMT
It has been confirmed and it was strongly hinted that he is an upgrade kit (barf). I mean it's either been confirmed or hinted at. Which? Lol. Or did the hint confirm it? Versus suggesting it would "probably" be one? |
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Post by Choco on Mar 9, 2018 21:43:57 GMT
It has been confirmed and it was strongly hinted that he is an upgrade kit (barf). I mean it's either been confirmed or hinted at. Which? Lol. Or did the hint confirm it? Versus suggesting it would "probably" be one? It has been confirmed that Rex is coming. It's been hinted at that he is an upgrade kit instead of a different sculpt. |
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Post by Soul Samurai on Mar 9, 2018 22:04:27 GMT
I mean it's either been confirmed or hinted at. Which? Lol. Or did the hint confirm it? Versus suggesting it would "probably" be one? It has been confirmed that Rex is coming. It's been hinted at that he is an upgrade kit instead of a different sculpt. I take it you're not a fan of upgrade kits? Personally I see advantages and disadvantages to upgrade kits, I'm just interested to see Rex's rules. |
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