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Post by gobber on Mar 7, 2018 19:17:45 GMT
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Post by claptrap on Mar 7, 2018 19:28:43 GMT
Because MAT 9 vectors with +2 STR that can attack during your opponent's turn are awesome!
Who am I kidding, that won't survive CID.
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Post by themusicalcake on Mar 8, 2018 0:13:23 GMT
How does Jackhammer interact with the Axiom's harpoons?
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Post by gobber on Mar 8, 2018 1:19:41 GMT
How does Jackhammer interact with the Axiom's harpoons? Basic melee attack so it doesn't? You can however use sentry to shoot during maintenance, jackhammer something to death, then repeat during the activation |
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Post by riproarinboogerpenis on Mar 8, 2018 2:20:36 GMT
Well i was thinking about picking up some Crucible but now, if this makes it through CID, I definitely will
Feels weird though. Unless she's a robot like Prospero (who I also kinda wish worked for CoC but whatever) she's gonna stick out
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Post by gobber on Mar 8, 2018 4:15:45 GMT
So there's actually a fascinating rules quirk here that isn't explicitly called out above (PP is aware of/watching this at the moment):
When running Locke's convergence lists, you can bring Vanguards and Toros in her battlegroup (thanks to their maker's mark rule). They will not be convergence faction model and will therefore not generate free points, but they are still affected by Locke's own friendly faction abilities (as locke is also crucible faction).
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Post by palabin on Mar 8, 2018 6:37:33 GMT
So a sentry TEP seems like it could be a thing...basic attacks lol....the servitors aren’t removed until it’s activation starts...
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Post by palabin on Mar 8, 2018 6:43:14 GMT
Also to note jack hammer doesn’t trigger road to war that only triggers during activation...
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Miafan
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Post by Miafan on Mar 8, 2018 7:32:34 GMT
I am a bit surprised that CoC forums are so silent about CG so far - given that CG basically has a built-in +2 damage against everything in CoC bar 2(now 3!) warcasters.
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Post by Hjard on Mar 8, 2018 8:03:29 GMT
I am a bit surprised that CoC forums are so silent about CG so far - given that CG basically has a built-in +2 damage against everything in CoC bar 2(now 3!) warcasters. So what? They can bring their POW to reasonable levels vs a faction that is immune to about half their other special abilities. Almost all factions have some way to give basically every model in their army a +2 to damage under some conditions NOT tied to a specific Warcaster. Dark Shroud, Choir, Rust from Mercs, Krielstone, Kiss of Lylyss (in faction / mercs) etc. |
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Post by bundeez on Mar 8, 2018 20:29:09 GMT
Quite interesting caster in Convergence for sure  I like Jackhammer, Redline and Road to War a lot since they help with exactly what the Jacks need: Hitting power, threat range and number of attacks. I wish we had a Jack with a single high power shot for sentry. The spell seems meh, outside of a cute drag from the Axiom. But it's only RAT5. And Orion can do the same (with RAT7). I guess the Monitor is a good target, but as has been discussed several times now, it's just a sad Warjack (compared to the Assimilator). Any list ideas yet? I immediately add a Prime Axiom, since it's perfect target for Jackhammer and Redline, but what else. 2 Axioms, or 3 Assimilators? Played both lists with Iron Mother a lot, maybe Locke can run the lists even better. Convergence Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Destruction Initiative (Locke 1) Aurum Lucanum Athanor Locke [+29] - Assimilator [16] - Assimilator [16] - Assimilator [16] - Corollary [6] - Diffuser [6] - Prime Axiom [38] Algorithmic Dispersion Optifex [2] Attunement Servitors [0] Attunement Servitors [0] Elimination Servitors [0] Elimination Servitors [0] Optifex Directive [4] Use servitors and Prime Axiom to trigger Road to War for extra threat for the Assimilators to shoot cortex off enemy warjacks. Might work better than with Iron Mother, though no Harm means weaker shooting. When Locke feats and the enemy spends focus/fury, can you boost attack/damage rolls on the free Jackhammer attacks? Or is it technically the Jack that has to boost (which it can't out of activation) |
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Post by gobber on Mar 8, 2018 21:00:05 GMT
When Locke feats and the enemy spends focus/fury, can you boost attack/damage rolls on the free Jackhammer attacks? Or is it technically the Jack that has to boost (which it can't out of activation) No boosts on jackhammers. It's possible to get there with other spells like guided hand, but I don't think there's anything in cyriss. Engine of destruction for the mat is nice though. |
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Post by Korianneder on Mar 8, 2018 22:45:16 GMT
So a sentry TEP seems like it could be a thing...basic attacks lol....the servitors aren’t removed until it’s activation starts... Except firing formulae specifically says during the models activation. So sentry on a tep doesn't get the free dice. |
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Post by Hjard on Mar 9, 2018 6:18:25 GMT
Convergence Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Destruction Initiative (Locke 1) Aurum Lucanum Athanor Locke [+29] - Assimilator [16] - Assimilator [16] - Assimilator [16] - Corollary [6] - Diffuser [6] - Prime Axiom [38] Algorithmic Dispersion Optifex [2] Attunement Servitors [0] Attunement Servitors [0] Elimination Servitors [0] Elimination Servitors [0] Optifex Directive [4] Sounds like simply a worse version of the same list with Directrix, a sidegrade at best. The same bad accuracy, but no feat to fix it for one turn. The same mediocre shooting power, but with Precision instead of potentially +2POW, which I would count as a draw. Less reliable range on the attacks. Road to War can bring you up, but somewhat relies on your enemy providing targets. Better melee output due to reliable hit fix in melee and Jackhammer. I think Syntherion is the better comparison / place to steal list build from. As a pure ranged caster she is simply worse than Directrix, but she is better at bringing combined arms. Ciphers look amazing with her, she fixes all their problems and turns them up to "just dumb" at the same time. Too slow? How about +2SPD and potentially Road to war? Many attacks? How about MAT 9? And why not give it POW 20 in addition to that. Sucks against shields and you wish you brought an Inverter? How about just destroying the shield in the (free) charge? She has zero ways to protect her army? Good thing the Walkers have base ARM 19. |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Mar 9, 2018 9:33:58 GMT
Being able to cast Jackhammer at your Vector being attacked by another beast or jack, that then hits back with Precision Strike seems really good. However as Engine only lasts for a turn, they will be unboosted mat 5s, so not super reliable.
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