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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Apr 5, 2017 13:27:08 GMT
Quick question to the people who would consider running marshaled jack under Vlad or Sorscha. Don't you feel like you are loosing a lot with Vlad? I mean his feat is a pretty big deal in favor or running jacks on him and his feat is battlegroup. Also aren't you scared of sending the jack out of drive range of the forge seer when using boundless charge? 4'' walk with 7'' command means a small 11'' drive range. You could run the forge seer, but then you'd lose the empower bonus. I personnaly think jack marshalling is broken and the forge seer is just an empower bot that will only be played when free in jaws of the wolf. But that might just be me that's way too salty. No your pretty much correct. Its just such a neat concept and model we reaaly WANT it to work
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 5, 2017 13:42:22 GMT
Quick question to the people who would consider running marshaled jack under Vlad or Sorscha. Don't you feel like you are loosing a lot with Vlad? I mean his feat is a pretty big deal in favor or running jacks on him and his feat is battlegroup. Also aren't you scared of sending the jack out of drive range of the forge seer when using boundless charge? 4'' walk with 7'' command means a small 11'' drive range. You could run the forge seer, but then you'd lose the empower bonus. I personnaly think jack marshalling is broken and the forge seer is just an empower bot that will only be played when free in jaws of the wolf. But that might just be me that's way too salty. A Khador Jack with Boundless Charge only moves 9", a large base is just shy of 2", so a Forge Seer who is level with a jack only needs to shuffle forward slightly to keep it in his 7" command. More than likely the Forge Seer can sit directly behind the jack to be shielded, then shuffle around and forwards to empower, the jack then charges and remains in command easily.
Yeah losing the feat with Vlad 1 would be pretty lame, but if you are taking Behemoth like in the example I gave earlier, he can put out crazy good ranged output with no help from Vlad (although that S&P he is casting anyway helps), and hang back as a later game piece while Vlad uses his feat to deliver his jacks in the earlier turns. Late game Vlad can put boundless on him and he can rip anything apart
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Post by auraco on Apr 5, 2017 13:59:17 GMT
Has anyone run a marshalled jack on the forge seer yet? I'm curious to see if people are having better results than what I'm expecting.
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Apr 5, 2017 14:16:41 GMT
I'll be trying it tonight and will report back.
Cheers, Dave
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wiking
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Post by wiking on Apr 6, 2017 0:19:21 GMT
I can see berserkers under sorcha1 as our answer to light jacks but they are so pillow fisted I doubt they are worth marshalling
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Post by Cryptix on Apr 6, 2017 4:08:05 GMT
Has anyone run a marshalled jack on the forge seer yet? I'm curious to see if people are having better results than what I'm expecting. I killed Magnus1 under Blur and severely injured a Sorscha1 to the point of being able to win on scenario because his caster was liable to die. Strike True is gravy with aiming.
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Apr 6, 2017 11:48:26 GMT
Battle report is up in my thread!
I was impressed with the forge seer marshaling a destroyer. However I had made a list that supported that combination, plus made other use of the forge seer (who was free in Jaws of the Wolf). It's certainly not going to work all the time, but I think it's an option with some casters.
Cheers, Dave
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wendan
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Post by wendan on Apr 6, 2017 12:07:45 GMT
I really want to try this!
I'm thinking Vlad 1 with two conquests, and a forge seer, each with a destroyer!
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Apr 6, 2017 12:12:26 GMT
I really want to try this! I'm thinking Vlad 1 with two conquests, and a forge seer, each with a destroyer! Try Irusk2 and stick Fire For Effect on the destroyer Then use the forge seer to also fully fuel Behemoth's gun Then realize you're playing Jaws of the Wolf and get random benefits and free stuff Cheers, Dave
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wendan
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Post by wendan on Apr 6, 2017 12:17:59 GMT
My heart. I can't take it!
Also nipples!
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Post by ozymandius on Apr 10, 2017 3:24:12 GMT
My Zerkova2 list currently has Behemoth marshalled by a forge seer. I have two in the list in order to keep him stocked with two focus a turn, and on feat turn, her feat lets me empower twice, for a fully loaded behemoth with a free charge. I have yet to try it out in a tournament, but it's next on the block.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Apr 10, 2017 4:00:21 GMT
I never thought about using a second empower on a Marshalled Jack...Something to think about I guess...
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Post by calaman on Apr 10, 2017 6:27:57 GMT
My Zerkova2 list currently has Behemoth marshalled by a forge seer. I have two in the list in order to keep him stocked with two focus a turn, and on feat turn, her feat lets me empower twice, for a fully loaded behemoth with a free charge. I have yet to try it out in a tournament, but it's next on the block. Very interesting idea - I am also thinking about 2 Forge Seers with Z2 but have not thought about using the Feat for double Empower...just had the boosted Hoarfroast in mind. Are you running the theme list or are you going out of theme?
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Post by skathrex on Apr 10, 2017 10:19:11 GMT
Just a short question on that topic. Does the Marshalled Jack counts towards the Casters WJP? Or do the Jacks that count towards have to be in the casters battlegroup?
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Post by haraldtorvatn on Apr 10, 2017 10:37:34 GMT
Only battelgroup jacks can be paid for by casters warjackpoints.
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