draycos
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Post by draycos on Jan 25, 2018 15:03:47 GMT
I have Reznik 2 and I have no idea what to run with him. I have one game under my belt with him. He ran turn one, and charged an enemy warbeast start of turn 2 (I went first) putting him in attack range of the enemy caster. He then proceeded to assassinate them top of turn 2. Nothing else in my army did anything resulting in absolutely no data to support if the list is good with him or not.
Current list: Reznik 2 Scourge of Heresy Sanctifier Vessel of Judgment Elias Gade Vassel Mechanic x3 Exemplar Errant Seneschal Wrack x2 Choir (min) Errants +UA Knights Exemplar x2 Exemplar Officer x2
So, to the question portion of the thread. What themes does Reznik 2 like? What models does he like to take? Should he be more infantry or battle-group focused (or mixed)? Is he an assassination caster? Is assassination just something to threaten while focusing on scenario? Is he competitive right now?
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privvy
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Post by privvy on Jan 25, 2018 15:28:09 GMT
With Spellpiercer, he loves Idrians and with Curse he loves ranged jacks. Reznik2 runs gunlines super well especially since his feat is so good. Faithful Masses is a pretty easy fit for him, as is Creators Might with the Idrians as a mercenary option.
If you can fit Madelyn Corbeau, she makes Reznik all but indestructible, if you have 1 focus on him and Parlay, only magic guns and spells can kill him (lamentation and Arcane Vortex from Scourge can remove spells totally from the equation) and most magic guns only nickle and dime him, at dice -6 or worse, which allows mechaniks and focus to fix that damage.
He can run almost anything because he's pretty toolboxy, but a couple of Reckoners, Scourge, and maybe a Guardian or Revenger make a fine battle group.
I really also like him in Exemplar Interdiction against beast bricks. Lamentation means they can't really use their animus if they want to buy attacks and the volume of weapon master attacks just shreds beasts apart. His feat is a lot less useful, and so is Spellpiercer, but the feat can tag support models.
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blakeh1
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Post by blakeh1 on Jan 25, 2018 17:36:29 GMT
He is not a great drop against Retribution, especially against Kaelyssa.
It also seems he absolutely needs at least one or two shield guards. Maybe it's just me, but there always seem to be ways to either get magic shooting (scenario objective, spells, buffing solos etc...) or so many things that have magic shooting that it's risky relying on his built in protection against non-magic shooting.
Even against a theme like the Trenchers that have a distinct lack of magic shooting, you play a scenario with objectives, they pick the one that gives magic shooting to a model, then one long gunner who leads the CRA gets it and they proceed to double tap an easy to see huge base Reznik from halfway across the table with 2 10 man CRAs
I haven't tried other themes yet, but I loved him with the Flameguard theme
Ambusing Daughters can do a lot to help tie up pesky shooting
Also Death March on Flamebringers or the second Daughter unit is very nice
I'm looking forward to trying him out with the Faithful Masses theme. He'll get access to the Avatar in that theme as well as being able to bring Scourge along
Having access to Boundless Charge for the Avatar seems very good and he helps open up Reznik's FOC to be used for other good things, like loading up Scourge as well
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Post by killroundears on Jan 26, 2018 7:54:32 GMT
Run him in faithful masses, he gets shieldguards there (free dartan, pay for a devout). Enjoy boundless charge on hand of vengeanced jacks for some insanity.
if you're lacking for damage you can even bring aiyana and holt and have them count for freebies in that theme
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wags
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Post by wags on Jan 26, 2018 8:30:58 GMT
Even against a theme like the Trenchers that have a distinct lack of magic shooting, you play a scenario with objectives, they pick the one that gives magic shooting to a model, then one long gunner who leads the CRA gets it and they proceed to double tap an easy to see huge base Reznik from halfway across the table with 2 10 man CRAs I don't believe they can do that. On page 65 of prime, "a model that would automatically miss if attacking the target normally cannot participate in a combined range attack." Armory only gives magical weapons to one model, for only it's next attack, the rest trying to take part in the CRA do not have magic weapons and would normally miss and not be eligible to take part. At least that's my understanding
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Post by correlion on Jan 26, 2018 8:39:55 GMT
Here is my variant of eReznik build:
War Room Army
Protectorate of Menoth - reznik2
Theme: The Creator's Might 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages - WJ: +29 - Hierophant - PC: 0 - Scourge of Heresy - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Templar - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13) - Templar - PC: 15
Vessel of Judgment - PC: 18
The Covenant of Menoth - PC: 0 Initiate Tristan Durant - PC: 0 - Redeemer - PC: 11 - Crusader - PC: 10 Wrack - PC: 1 Wrack - PC: 1 Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1 Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1
Visgoth Juviah Rhoven & Honor Guard - Rhoven, Gius & Cassian: 9 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 5 Grunts: 6
THEME: The Creator's Might
This build can work against retri jacks cos of 4 shield guards. also you can swap Templar with Crusader on jr caster and reach arm23 with Fortify
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Post by correlion on Jan 26, 2018 8:47:33 GMT
Even against a theme like the Trenchers that have a distinct lack of magic shooting, you play a scenario with objectives, they pick the one that gives magic shooting to a model, then one long gunner who leads the CRA gets it and they proceed to double tap an easy to see huge base Reznik from halfway across the table with 2 10 man CRAs I don't believe they can do that. On page 65 of prime, "a model that would automatically miss if attacking the target normally cannot participate in a combined range attack." Armory only gives magical weapons to one model, for only it's next attack, the rest trying to take part in the CRA do not have magic weapons and would normally miss and not be eligible to take part. At least that's my understanding actually they cannot participate, because they cannot target models with Passage, if they don't have magical ranged weapons. P65: In order to participate in a combined ranged attack, a trooper must be able to declare a ranged attack against the intended target.
Hymn of Passage (★ Action) - Target warjack can't be targeted by non-magical ranged attacks for one round.
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Hjard
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Post by Hjard on Jan 26, 2018 11:25:01 GMT
I don't believe they can do that. On page 65 of prime, "a model that would automatically miss if attacking the target normally cannot participate in a combined range attack." Armory only gives magical weapons to one model, for only it's next attack, the rest trying to take part in the CRA do not have magic weapons and would normally miss and not be eligible to take part. At least that's my understanding actually they cannot participate, because they cannot target models with Passage, if they don't have magical ranged weapons. P65: In order to participate in a combined ranged attack, a trooper must be able to declare a ranged attack against the intended target.
Hymn of Passage (★ Action) - Target warjack can't be targeted by non-magical ranged attacks for one round.
Reznik 2 does not get Passage. He has "Lamentations of suffering". Result is the same though, CRA is useless vs. Reznik unless everyone has a magic gun.
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Post by correlion on Jan 26, 2018 12:16:02 GMT
I was thinking about jacks, sry
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Post by correlion on Jan 26, 2018 12:20:24 GMT
I have Behemoth under ForgeSeer with pButcher in my meta, so 2-3 shield guards are mandatory
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Fire Step
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Post by Fire Step on Mar 13, 2018 12:39:31 GMT
Intrigued to see if there has been any development here for Reznik. Based on Mt thoughts, I put together this:
War Room Army
Protectorate of Menoth - Reznik2
Theme: The Faithful Masses 2 / 2 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army
Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages - WJ: +29 - Hierophant - PC: 3 - Scourge of Heresy - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Devout - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Crusader - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 4) - Crusader - PC: 10
The Covenant of Menoth - PC: 4 Wrack - PC: 1 Wrack - PC: 1 Wrack - PC: 1 High Paladin Dartan Vilmon - PC: 0 Paladin of the Order of the Wall - PC: 4 Paladin of the Order of the Wall - PC: 4 Deliverer Arms Master - PC: 3
Deliverer Sunburst Crew - Gunner & 2 Grunts: 0 Deliverer Skyhammers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13 Idrian Skirmishers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide - Chieftain & Guide: 5 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4
THEME: The Faithful Masses ---
GENERATED : 03/13/2018 12:39:22 BUILD ID : 2061.18-02-21
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draycos
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Post by draycos on Mar 13, 2018 15:47:08 GMT
I have been playing him:
Creator's Might Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages - WJ: +29 - Hierophant - PC: 3 - Scourge of Heresy - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Devout - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Crusader - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 4) - Judicator - PC: 36 - Repenter - PC: 8 - Repenter - PC: 8
Vassal of Menoth - PC: Free Vassal of Menoth - PC: Free Vassal Mechanic - PC: 1 Vassal Mechanic - PC: 1 The Covenant of Menoth - PC: Free Wrack x3 - PC: 3
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4
Pros that I have found: *opponent is always under threat of assassination *Can clear large groups of Infantry with relative ease *Able to hit hard enough to remove Key enemy Jacks *Excellent against enemy spells and up keeps.
Things it is okay at: *Can hold or stall most scenarios *Attrition in some situations
Cons: *Currently bad into fireproof lists (prior to CID proposed changes) *I suck at keeping choir safe... *Probably Crumples against a melee-based Jack wall/Jack based lists (something I have not tested into yet)
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Post by streetpizza on Mar 22, 2018 15:26:25 GMT
Here's a FM list I've enjoyed using and had very good success with: conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0Oe71r3U3I9ljCjC3E3r3r3r2_2S3G3HProtectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Faithful Masses (Reznik 2) Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages [+29] - Devout [9] - Sanctifier [14] - Scourge of Heresy [16] - Madelyn Corbeau, Ordic Courtesan [4] Champion of the Order of the Wall [8] Champion of the Order of the Wall [8] High Paladin Dartan Vilmon [0(6)] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Wrack or mechanic to taste [1] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Deliverer Skyhammers (max) [13] Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15] - Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide [0(5)] Paladins with vengeance and boundless charge have huge threat ranges. The sanctifier takes the focus load off of R2 leaving him able to do his own thing and provide spell support. Idrians and deliverers are disgusting into infantry lists on feat turn and provide good damage with CRA's into armor lists. Escort the deliverers with paladins for that girded goodness when appropriate. Madelyne, 2 shield guards and lots of spell denial makes the big man near immortal as he bullies his way up the field. The only theme I don't like R2 in exemplar interdiction. The exemplar theme already brings so many blessed magical weapons and the jacks get them from the theme that you don't really get anything useful out of R2 that can't be done better by somebody else like Thyra or Vindictus.
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Post by macdaddy on Mar 22, 2018 16:10:08 GMT
Here's a FM list I've enjoyed using and had very good success with: conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0Oe71r3U3I9ljCjC3E3r3r3r2_2S3G3HProtectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Faithful Masses (Reznik 2) Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages [+29] - Devout [9] - Sanctifier [14] - Scourge of Heresy [16] - Madelyn Corbeau, Ordic Courtesan [4] Champion of the Order of the Wall [8] Champion of the Order of the Wall [8] High Paladin Dartan Vilmon [0(6)] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Wrack or mechanic to taste [1] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Deliverer Skyhammers (max) [13] Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15] - Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide [0(5)] Paladins with vengeance and boundless charge have huge threat ranges. The sanctifier takes the focus load off of R2 leaving him able to do his own thing and provide spell support. Idrians and deliverers are disgusting into infantry lists on feat turn and provide good damage with CRA's into armor lists. Escort the deliverers with paladins for that girded goodness when appropriate. Madelyne, 2 shield guards and lots of spell denial makes the big man near immortal as he bullies his way up the field. The only theme I don't like R2 in exemplar interdiction. The exemplar theme already brings so many blessed magical weapons and the jacks get them from the theme that you don't really get anything useful out of R2 that can't be done better by somebody else like Thyra or Vindictus. Yay someone else loves skyhammers They are soo good for their cost!
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Post by streetpizza on Mar 22, 2018 17:08:45 GMT
Yay someone else loves skyhammers They are soo good for their cost! True story. I was very impressed with what they can do on the table while staying very safe. I only ever really feared long range blast damage and the paladins handle that problem nicely.
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