Choco
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Post by Choco on Jan 18, 2018 21:47:24 GMT
I am playing in a Journeyman League where things are a bit looser than usual with the starting battleboxes. I was allowed to play this for starting:
Reznik1
-Guardian
-Crusader
Week 2 will add Scourge.
Week 3 will add a Vassal and a min unit with CA of Idrians in Faithful Masses.
Beyond that I am sticking with the FM theme and picking up a bunch of paladins, choir, and Deliverers. I just wanted to give you this basic idea of what I am doing here, but I really wanted to talk Reznik as a whole.
On the first day of the league, I killed many a jack with Reznik himself, found out how much hurt he can put out there on a personal level without his jacks needing to help him at all, and how susceptible he is to shooting and spells. I also found out that power up gets around his feat and using his feat defensively against a hordes list isn't that great, more of a slight inconvenience for them.
When week 2 and especially week 3 come around, I will be much less susceptible to spell assassinations with Scourge in the list and when I get my paladins (see: Vilmon) in week 4 I have better game into ranged lists.
Beyond all these concerns, what do you think of Reznik in general in a Journeyman League? He seems really good, but has some pronounced weaknesses early on.
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thelat
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Post by thelat on Jan 18, 2018 22:20:00 GMT
There's very little in the Iron Kingdoms that Reznik can't personally destroy. He enjoys the company of a Vigilant until he's ready to attack.
Reznik's battlegroup abilities are very powerful in the early stages of a Journeyman league.
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Post by killroundears on Jan 18, 2018 23:55:11 GMT
Rezniks feat is a really strong assassination tool but pretty trash otherwise. the fact that you can get around the focus side of it in a few ways, and the fury side is basically non functional, and that cont fire on a spellcaster after they've cast their spell is pretty weaksauce too.
Perdition + Scourge's bond with Rez should cause some hilarity in low point games at least.
Reznik suffers from having a lot of cool different abilities but he really struggles to leverage it all since hes so focus starved, which ends up in him being surprisingly weak for the tools he has.
the fact he plays without a feat if you dont have an assassination run can also be hard
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jan 19, 2018 16:48:45 GMT
Rezniks feat is a really strong assassination tool but pretty trash otherwise. the fact that you can get around the focus side of it in a few ways, and the fury side is basically non functional, and that cont fire on a spellcaster after they've cast their spell is pretty weaksauce too. Perdition + Scourge's bond with Rez should cause some hilarity in low point games at least. Reznik suffers from having a lot of cool different abilities but he really struggles to leverage it all since hes so focus starved, which ends up in him being surprisingly weak for the tools he has. the fact he plays without a feat if you dont have an assassination run can also be hard Into a Warmachine faction, popping it defensively once you have engaged your opponent's jacks at such a low point scale is huge. When they have such a smaller chance to retaliate because they are only getting the power up focus, it's a huge boon. In mangled metal games, you can go for the caster, or just kill their jacks. Killing their jacks is how I have won all of my games that I have won so far. |
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blakeh1
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Post by blakeh1 on Jan 19, 2018 19:19:34 GMT
His feat is disappointing. It seems like it should be much better than it is, but as you pointed up, power-up kind of counters it. It is still a pretty good feat if going for an assassination against Hordes as it strips away FURY to prevent them transferring. The no upkeep part I found of useless since the caster is often to far away when you use the feat for warmachine purposes, or you've already gone for an assassination run against a Hordes caster
Brand of Heresy was almost always the wrong choice to cast or bother upkeeping compared to just giving out more FOC or keeping it for himself to try triggering Perdition, or using for a tooled up Engine of Destruction masacre.
I always found him extremely FOC starved to being with, and having to cast Brand, boosting to hit during a crucial turn was just not reliable
The most useful stuff I found was Ignite, Purgation and his bound with Scourge. I also would sometime get some work out of his ability to create wracks, and then swing and blow them up for some nice crowd clearing, or for some surprise damage against models just out of his reach
Many games with him I never actually used his feat
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thelat
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Post by thelat on Jan 19, 2018 21:53:16 GMT
Reznik's feat is only about killing the enemy caster. That's it. Don't try to use it for anything else.
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Cyel
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Post by Cyel on Jan 20, 2018 10:46:07 GMT
I loved using Reznik's feat against Makeda 2. A really hard time for the otherwise unkillable kitties  |
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privvy
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Post by privvy on Jan 25, 2018 15:25:03 GMT
Depending on the upcoming weeks, I would try to slot in a Redeemer too. It has some pretty amazing ranged presence with Reznik, due to Brand of Heresy. Since you're running in FM, a choir is much less necessary, but boosted POW 14s from 16" away is incredible. I don't take him without at least one Redeemer, my biggest problem is overallocating to the other jacks because he does such a good job softening up hard targets.
In my last game, a Redeemer with Brand of Heresy accoutned for all but 4 damage on a Blindwalker and severely damaged a Gladiator in the following round. ROF3 with Brand on something means it just never needs focus and can usually sit and aim.
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jan 25, 2018 16:25:30 GMT
Depending on the upcoming weeks, I would try to slot in a Redeemer too. It has some pretty amazing ranged presence with Reznik, due to Brand of Heresy. Since you're running in FM, a choir is much less necessary, but boosted POW 14s from 16" away is incredible. I don't take him without at least one Redeemer, my biggest problem is overallocating to the other jacks because he does such a good job softening up hard targets. In my last game, a Redeemer with Brand of Heresy accoutned for all but 4 damage on a Blindwalker and severely damaged a Gladiator in the following round. ROF3 with Brand on something means it just never needs focus and can usually sit and aim. I have a plan in place, but the more I have been looking at specific models and jacks, the more I want either a Redeemer, or possibly a pair of Repenters. Brand is such an interesting spell that can do a lot and not enough all at the same time. Such a fickle spell. |
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privvy
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Post by privvy on Jan 25, 2018 17:25:51 GMT
Yeah, I can also second double Repenter as a good thing with him. If they trigger Witch Hound, it's a pretty good jack to apply it to. They're super efficient, as long as they have just the one box left in their flamethrower, they can run the table. Tag a unit with Brand that isn't spaced out quite right and you take the whole unit out trivially.
Based on my experiences with Redeemers and Repenters with Reznik, the Judicator is also fairly attractive and I plan to test that soon. I know that doesn't really apply to your journeyman league, but Reznik has been my favorite caster since early MkII and it's definitely worth experimenting with him after the league is over.
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