mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jan 9, 2018 19:13:29 GMT
Hey y’all,
I’m wanting to get some feedback on this list before I put it on the table the next few weeks. Once I potentially tweak it after your feedback and put it on the table I’ll give some battle reports.
The swamp troll, troll Basher, Janissa and Lanyssa are the optional parts of the list in my eyes, and I feel there is a better option out there, just not sure what.
Thanks!
War Room Army
Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Captain Gunnbjorn - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Swamp Troll - PC: 8
- Glacier King - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
- Troll Basher - PC: 7
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 4
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6
THEME: The Power of Dhunia
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GENERATED : 01/09/2018 13:02:30
BUILD ID : 2059.17-12-30
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jan 9, 2018 20:20:18 GMT
A Gunny list without Dozer and Smigg? Do you not own the model? I just usually have good success with him and Gunny, especially in a PoD theme. The auto boosted blast damage rolls can really get some work done. But, if it does not work for you, hey no biggie  |
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Jan 9, 2018 21:26:26 GMT
I'm inclined to think that Gunny needs a compelling reason to not use a King, as his synergies with any of them are too good to pass up.
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bundeez
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Post by bundeez on Jan 9, 2018 21:55:53 GMT
I really would not put Gunnbjorn on the table without a Mountain King. 1 or potentially 2 sprays from him per turn makes guided fire all worth it. + you don't have to have a Mauler.
What is the list designed to play against?
POD generally has an issue with scenario, but since merc/minion now is available, I think a unit Gunnbjorn can cast snipe on helps out a lot.
I do like the Winter troll with him, but do not like Swamp and Basher.
The list kind of reminds me of EE post nerf. Maybe some elemental trolls instead of the melee beasts/swamp?
Storm for sniping solos (and get snipe potentially) or Slag if you meet a lot of Warjacks in your meta.
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jan 10, 2018 0:54:14 GMT
A Gunny list without Dozer and Smigg? Do you not own the model? I just usually have good success with him and Gunny, especially in a PoD theme. The auto boosted blast damage rolls can really get some work done. But, if it does not work for you, hey no biggie I do own the model (and it is beautiful). I felt the winter trolls would fill his roll for cheaper? He can certainly snipe out support better. |
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jan 10, 2018 0:55:41 GMT
I'm inclined to think that Gunny needs a compelling reason to not use a King, as his synergies with any of them are too good to pass up. The Glacier King brings some different tools... specifically a bit of a control element to help with scenario. The MK spray +auto boosts are certainly something to consider. |
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jan 10, 2018 1:07:52 GMT
I really would not put Gunnbjorn on the table without a Mountain King. 1 or potentially 2 sprays from him per turn makes guided fire all worth it. + you don't have to have a Mauler. What is the list designed to play against? POD generally has an issue with scenario, but since merc/minion now is available, I think a unit Gunnbjorn can cast snipe on helps out a lot. I do like the Winter troll with him, but do not like Swamp and Basher. The list kind of reminds me of EE post nerf. Maybe some elemental trolls instead of the melee beasts/swamp? Storm for sniping solos (and get snipe potentially) or Slag if you meet a lot of Warjacks in your meta. I believe it would do best against a mixed arms list. The combo of the wall protecting landing spots around the GK, the push from his shots and the +1 speed from the Elder mostly ensures the GK gets to the target I want it to and doesn’t get hit from the target they want it to. He should be able to bully the board. Winter trolls with +1 speed/+2 damage, kill shot and auto boosted sprays sound amazing. Snipe is FF, so no merc/min options can benefit from that. The swamp troll is in the list for the crazy potential for assassinations he brings to small/med based casters. He can charge forward and then has potentially two shots (regular range attack then kill shot) to pull in a caster from 12”. Could be a strategy breaking piece as well with his animus making something that was expected to kill him not pull it off with him within distance of the caster. He could become an 8pt model that you HAVE to trade a big piece for. All speculation though. Slag might be worth considering though... Basher is a 7pt filler at the moment, and the list deserves better. Lol |
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jan 10, 2018 6:01:39 GMT
The question asking what I would play this into got me thinking it would not be jack/beast heavy anyway... so I questioned if the Mauler was needed at all. What do you think?
Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Captain Gunnbjorn - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Glacier King - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
- Ice Troll - PC: 9
- Ice Troll - PC: 9
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 4
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew - Leader & 1 Grunt: 2
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cuberic
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Post by cuberic on Jan 10, 2018 6:02:26 GMT
I have had success with this list.
War Room Army
Trollblood - Gunny
Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Stockpile - Steamroller Objective
Captain Gunnbjorn - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Mountain King - PC: 36 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19
- Slag Troll - PC: 10
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
THEME: The Power of Dhunia
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GENERATED : 01/09/2018 22:57:51
BUILD ID : 2059.17-12-30
I was thinking of switching the slag for a swamp troll and feralgiest for better scenario presence.
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Post by Trollock on Jan 10, 2018 7:06:47 GMT
mattmcdI like that you are willing to test out the less commonly used synergies with gunny. We have all seen the MK + Bomber + D&S versions and it works super well. A GK with snipe, POW 16 and boosted hit rolls is a very scary piece though, and the winter trolls could potentially be very fun, sort of like a budget MK lol. The danger with this type of list is that you plan on hanging back and shoot as much as possible, and that leaves you very vulnerable to scenario play. I think especially the second list you posted will do fine on attrition against light stuff or at least against moderates amount of heavies, but you may be run over on scenario while killing their army. I really like the inclusion of the axer since it gives your GK a significant melee threat range AND it allows your winter trolls to charge deeper, punch a couple of guys and then spray with kill shot. Im just uncertain if you can hang on long enough for you to kill everything before you lose on scenario. The Ice trolls will do work every turn, but perhaps more POW 15 shots is not what the list needs. Perhaps something dumb like double Bouncer would serve the list better. It looks silly on paper, but on the table that might be needed to stay in the game. Im not sure at all...
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bundeez
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Post by bundeez on Jan 10, 2018 9:19:36 GMT
Since when did Snipe become a FF spell?
Pretty sure it was friendly model just a few months back...
Well, that is a middle finger to the merc inclusion to help POD in scenario!
Damn...
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Post by Trollock on Jan 10, 2018 9:22:24 GMT
Since when did Snipe become a FF spell? Pretty sure it was friendly model just a few months back... Well, that is a middle finger to the merc inclusion to help POD in scenario! Damn... In the MK3 transition. Just like "every other" spell |
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Post by GrumpyBear on Jan 10, 2018 16:47:29 GMT
What about a Bog Shaman? He gives a Glacier King magic weapon and truesight, which allows you to play into way more match ups.
Barring that, with a Gunny list why wouldn't you have gremlin swarm? Considering the entire plan is to hang back and shoot, there is no model in the game better for darting forward to contest.
Last but not least, Winter Trolls with pathfinder and killshot boosted sprays seems phenomenal and worth taking any day.
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stibe
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Post by stibe on Jan 11, 2018 10:59:35 GMT
Here's my offering:
Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army
Armory - Steamroller Objective
Captain Gunnbjorn - WB: +28
- Glacier King - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
Bog Trog Mist Speaker - PC: 4
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 4
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew - Leader & 1 Grunt: 2
I will always (ALWAYS) take Mist Speaker with Gunny after playing my very first game with him (gk,mk, dozer) I got totally neutered by my opponents cloud tech.
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