granor
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Post by granor on Jan 2, 2018 22:57:41 GMT
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zich
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Post by zich on Jan 3, 2018 14:01:04 GMT
Thanks for posting. Let's go through these in a totally unstructured and opinionated manner:
Funline is still broken. MakedaCats is still outdated. ExZaalted is still good. Beast bricks are still bad. No surprises thusfar.
Nice to see Mordikaar is catching on. I'm not sure Rhadeim+PGBH is better than Karax+Soulward though.
I have no idea who Joel Carne is, but his lists look really interesting. I'm not at all convinced of Makeda1 MoW, but with that crazy amount of dudes it might just work.
Out-of-theme Hexy1? The what of what? Looks interesting. Drakespam is back. Let's see if it's good again. With 7 of the buggers and 2 OP BEs it just might be.
Makeda1 again. This time in Warhost. I like it. But what is that? 2 Savages? Why are those there? And Hexy2 also in Warhost? I'm not a fan of that. But wait. They have a second Skorne player! They are truly men of culture. That ExZaalted list is of course baller. But then there's another Zaadesh2 beast brick. Okay, America. We need to talk. I love Zaadesh2, I really do. He's tons of fun and I think he's my most-played Mk3 caster. And with that authority I have to say that ZaadeshBeastBricks are really bad. They are inflexible beyond all measure and lack a lot of tools especially into Grymkin or Cryx. This obsession needs to end. It's not healthy. The Shaman and Eilish might just save it though.
Will there be streams/recordings?
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granor
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Post by granor on Jan 3, 2018 16:02:19 GMT
I wish I knew how many times Jason dropped his zaadesh2 beast brick when he won the LCQ.
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didder
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Post by didder on Jan 3, 2018 18:51:27 GMT
I vaguely remember him posting in fb that he used the Zaadesh brick twice, but I'm not extremely sure on that.
For myself, I really, really like using the mist speaker, a Drake, and a minion unit if you're running imperial warhost under Zaadesh's brick. I think it shores up a lot of the themes shortcomings. Forget the third free beast.
Zaadesh doesn't do much for minions besides the clouds, which is still good. Even a small minion unit like Valkyries helps a lot with scenario and spreadability. Just remember the krea aura doesn't work on your minions. Not good when you forget that. |
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skormedlover87
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Post by skormedlover87 on Jan 5, 2018 4:11:54 GMT
Drakespam is back. Let's see if it's good again. With 7 of the buggers and 2 OP BEs it just might be Will there be streams/recordings? It won't be good, I'm running it.... Last year the only recorded /streamed bits were the masters. Though the Battle Driven dudes are present this year so maybe? I can ask. |
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Post by debilitate on Jan 21, 2018 7:57:10 GMT
What was the thoughts behind the x1 list? Especially the Arcuarii, trying to wrap my head around how/what they were in the list for.
List:
Skorne Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Masters of War
(Xerxis 1) Tyrant Xerxis [+28]
- Bronzeback Titan [18]
- Tiberion [22]
- Titan Gladiator [15]
Extoller Soulward [3]
Cataphract Arcuarii (min) [11]
Cataphract Cetrati (min) [12]
- Tyrant Vorkesh [6]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5]
Praetorian Karax (max) [11]
- Praetorian Karax Officer & Standard [0(4)]
Tyrant Commander & Standard Bearer [0(6)]
Here's what it was played into:
kolgrima - win
maelok - win
zaadesh2 - win
orion1 - win
siege1 - loss
jagajaga1 - loss
haley3 - win
reznik2 - loss
helynna1 - win
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demonic
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Post by demonic on Jan 22, 2018 3:08:01 GMT
the arcuarii are used for pulling defensive lines appart and assassinating important pieces. Now that both their melee and ranged weapon have weapon master, they can even pull light beasts while dealing a hefty amount of damage. When you combine it with Xerxis1's feat they can really rip people apart, especially when being able to melee attack whatever they drag back. You can think of it like the Legion's hellmouth tactic of using the hellmouth to bring important pieces back to the mouth where their powerful beasts rip them apart. It's also in there in order to give the list some ranged weaponry. Masters of War even removes beasts that have damaging ranged attacks, meaning unless you are going to put some minions in your list you have no gun presence other than 2 solos (I think) and the Arcuarii. Since he couldn't fit the second Tycom, though, it wouldn't be a list I'd personally choose.
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didder
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ATC lists
Jan 22, 2018 3:22:31 GMT
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Post by didder on Jan 22, 2018 3:22:31 GMT
About not having a second Ty comm, it's definitely mitigated by Xerxis' own battleplans
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granor
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Post by granor on Jan 22, 2018 14:53:34 GMT
Masters of War even removes beasts that have damaging ranged attacks, meaning unless you are going to put some minions in your list you have no gun presence other than 2 solos (I think) and the Arcuarii. The Incindiarii are super sad you forgot about them. |
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