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Post by allinontrolls on Dec 28, 2017 17:05:11 GMT
Hi,
I am looking for a partner for my d3 list which is able to play into a lot of lists that do not shoot hard so the second list should be able to deal with shooting. First caster in mind is gunny and I built this list.
War Room Army
Trollblood - New Army
Theme: Storm of the North
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Captain Gunnbjorn - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Glacier King - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
- Winter Troll - PC: 8
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Bog Trog Mist Speaker - PC: 4
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Northkin Bear Handler & Battle Bears - Bear Handler & 2 Battle Bears: 10
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 5
Northkin Fire Eaters - Leader, Trollkin Grunt, and Pyg Grunt: 7
THEME: Storm of the North
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The idea is to use the gk as an late game piece while shooting 16" power 16 completely boosted shoots into the opponents army . While mist speaker helps providing magic weapon and eyless sight to the gk. The bears are their to control the opponents flanks. Champs in combination with gunnys wall + Feat should be able to get to the opponents models.
Any ideas or questions.
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Post by mazog on Dec 28, 2017 17:25:37 GMT
That looks pretty good. I am in love with Jarl in Storm with quickened Max champs and double bears, though. That list has wrecked a much more competitive cygnar player two for two, in gravediggers and sons of tempest. There's a long thread on here about Jarl in Storm with a variety of lists, I'm playing the one with lookouts from near the end, but there are lists there people thought were better after it. He can be good in other themes, but the free upkeeps really make this the standout.
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Post by Trollock on Dec 28, 2017 17:52:10 GMT
The list looks fine to me. Mist speaker sounds good against haley3 and doomy does not love her. Other than that though i do not see why doomy3 shouldbt be able to play against cygnar and skorne...
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Post by allinontrolls on Dec 28, 2017 18:44:07 GMT
In Germany skorne plays a lot of double be shooting lists and even with a bouncer doomy3 does not like getting shot. Cygnar is kind of similar with be and colossal. I like gunny a bit more than jarl cause he really helps ur stuff to be better. He helps gk to be capable of shooting 3 x pow 16 fully boosted 16" each turn. Explosivo is nice for the winter troll spray. And u got a wall every turn in a perfect spot. The Feat is simple but really effective. Do not forget the cover and no knock down part.
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Post by Trollock on Dec 28, 2017 21:51:43 GMT
In Germany skorne plays a lot of double be shooting lists and even with a bouncer doomy3 does not like getting shot. Cygnar is kind of similar with be and colossal. I like gunny a bit more than jarl cause he really helps ur stuff to be better. He helps gk to be capable of shooting 3 x pow 16 fully boosted 16" each turn. Explosivo is nice for the winter troll spray. And u got a wall every turn in a perfect spot. The Feat is simple but really effective. Do not forget the cover and no knock down part. How about Doomy3 with 2 shamans? Sure, they can give one guy eyeless sight, but camp 1 and you are fine? Implacability ought to be extra nice if they play those Turtle things who knock you down all the time  |
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Post by allinontrolls on Dec 29, 2017 10:52:48 GMT
Its not about shooting my caster. With our new runebearer + shaman + ebdt animus + janissa u can keep him safe. It's about them shooting down the stone and/or just shoot ur beasts before u reach their units.
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Post by onijet01 on Dec 29, 2017 17:29:13 GMT
Not to sound to ignorent or arrogant, but...
Your army list is actually at 69/75 points. I recalculated and plugged the list to count points.
Skaldi 1 is good for the Champions but not needed at all. His only bonus outher than adding 8 hit points to sanguine bond is minor. He brings Overtake to the unit wich is the beat non-redundent benifit. And pathfinder on charges.
In comparison if you took the Trollkin Champion Solo, the unit gains. Retaliatory Strike, on a unit with (usually) Def14 arm 18. Once an opponents attack resolves the model hit can make a strile back. Out of a p+s 12 weapon master at mat 8.
For champs i fins this a better option over Skaldi1. Further more you can add a weapon attachment to the unit to grant magic weapons and 5 extra hit points per 3pt model (which gives you two attachments at your current points)
Im also curious as the reason why you have the fire eaters in the list?
And dont forget the theme list makes all non-warlock Trollblood units Northkin Models so skaldi is even less needed.
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Post by allinontrolls on Dec 29, 2017 18:40:44 GMT
I copy pasted the list in warroom and conflict chamber. Both were 75/75 points.
First fire eaters
I really love them at the start of mk3 but after theme were popular and fire eaters were not allowed they were forgotten. With our new theme they are back. They are really amazing for 7 points counting towards free points. I never had a problem to kill 7 points worth of models with them.
Champions
First I do not really like the sorcerer as an attachment for champs. I see a reason in some builts but this list has a lot of possible magic weapons. Explosivo + mist speaker. I would always play a sorcerer if u play madrak1 cause his healing is really nice .
Skaldi vs Hero
In my opinion I would always go for skaldi first. The pathfinder option is nice getting 8 addition boxes is nice. The big benefit of champs are that the opponent misses his attacks vs champs which would negate the retoratary strike.
In general I see a lot of people putting too much points into the champs package. I really like the 21 points.
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Post by killroundears on Dec 31, 2017 6:17:15 GMT
I definitely agree on people going too all in on the champ boat which exacerbates their weaknesses. Like rebuke even if it gets purged off dumpsters their threat range and can be applied turn after turn. Morg3s blind and sorscha1s stationary spells really ruins them too and in my meta morg3 is huge.
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Post by Trollock on Dec 31, 2017 8:56:23 GMT
I definitely agree on people going too all in on the champ boat which exacerbates their weaknesses. Like rebuke even if it gets purged off dumpsters their threat range and can be applied turn after turn. Morg3s blind and sorscha1s stationary spells really ruins them too and in my meta morg3 is huge. If you use eilish to remove rebuke it will not effect the champions at all though. |
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Post by killroundears on Dec 31, 2017 9:17:15 GMT
I definitely agree on people going too all in on the champ boat which exacerbates their weaknesses. Like rebuke even if it gets purged off dumpsters their threat range and can be applied turn after turn. Morg3s blind and sorscha1s stationary spells really ruins them too and in my meta morg3 is huge. If you use eilish to remove rebuke it will not effect the champions at all though.TThis is true but i havent seen troll players gere run him because morg3 is the big one locally thats ruining champs and eilish does nothing to prevent his blind except threaten to kill marketh in 2-3 turns by which time the damage is done |
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Post by ninjapete on Dec 31, 2017 11:13:49 GMT
Also don’t forget the unit with Skaldi becomes Northkin and immune to cold so Sorscha’s spells won’t work on them.
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Post by onijet01 on Dec 31, 2017 16:17:48 GMT
Also don’t forget the unit with Skaldi becomes Northkin and immune to cold so Sorscha’s spells won’t work on them. If you play Storm of the North theme list all non-warlock warrior models become northkin models and gain immunity to gold by theme |
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Post by killroundears on Jan 1, 2018 9:11:12 GMT
Also don’t forget the unit with Skaldi becomes Northkin and immune to cold so Sorscha’s spells won’t work on them. If you play Storm of the North theme list all non-warlock warrior models become northkin models and gain immunity to gold by theme i do enjoy models that can't be bribed |
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