Hashmal
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Post by Hashmal on Apr 29, 2018 0:54:34 GMT
Kreoss3 runs well in any theme with the possible exception of Creator's Might. I have done double Idrians and Sanctifiers with him to good success. He also does Guardians really well because he helps Flame Bringers hit hard and ups the DEf values of an already high defense theme force.
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Post by paradox on Apr 29, 2018 1:20:40 GMT
Kreoss3 is good with literally everything. In fact, I have more lists with him without vengers than with. Huh. If you don't mind, what do you tend to run with him? I pretty much always have at least one unit of Vengers with him, as he does make them hit like a truck, then fill in with whatever I want, as he doesn't seem to favor any other unit/model over another. Literally any Faithful Masses list. Flamebringers. Creators Might. Paladin boat. Zealots. Like, Im not joking. Any list. Just stick him in.
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thelat
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Post by thelat on Apr 29, 2018 2:15:24 GMT
I would like to know why a Cygnar bunker and Menite Church are so close together. It really feels like one would have destroyed the other before the game begins.
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Post by mydnight on Apr 29, 2018 9:10:35 GMT
I would like to know why a Cygnar bunker and Menite Church are so close together. It really feels like one would have destroyed the other before the game begins. Menoth uses drop pods.
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Post by greytemplar on Apr 29, 2018 15:48:55 GMT
The same guy pulling the vessel pulls the church around in his spare time. It’s how he stays in shape.
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Fire Step
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Everyday I'm Wrastlin'
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Post by Fire Step on Apr 29, 2018 16:22:01 GMT
The blockhouse could probably be put up really quickly - it's just a shelter really.
I've found myself undercoating cinerators and thinking about how to get more. what a world we live in
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Hashmal
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Post by Hashmal on Apr 29, 2018 16:52:42 GMT
I have two squads and middling expectations.
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spideredd
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Summer Gamer
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Post by spideredd on Apr 29, 2018 17:37:55 GMT
Cinerators are so close be being viable. Bastions on the other hand...
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 29, 2018 18:07:37 GMT
Cinerators are so close be being viable. Bastions on the other hand... All cinerators need is a way to compete in some way against knights exemplar. Shieldwall plus vengence is an interesting way with the UA, but if they receive a solid cost reduction as well I think they will be in a good place. It would also be nice if the base unit gained a slight offensive bump, like rapid strike. Bastions...are going to be hard especially with cinerators gaining shieldwall. What if they gained the old Knights exemplar ability, where they get +1 Str and Arm for every one of them that dies. so the last bastion would be P+S 15 WM and arm 21? Or just give them battle driven, a points drop, and wall of steel for arm 20 while B2 after suffering damage?
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spideredd
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Summer Gamer
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Post by spideredd on Apr 29, 2018 22:57:00 GMT
The fact that Cinerators are going to get shield wall makes me wonder if PP are finally going to reverse the roles of Bastions and Cinerators. If they do, it gets much easier to fix Bastions.
I'm not holding my breath though
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Post by W0lfBane on Apr 30, 2018 4:03:19 GMT
My friend pointed out to me that protectorate is the only faction where units with proper shields don't have shield wall.
Cam anyone think of a counter example?
I really think cinerators should have shield wall base.
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Post by dmorktry on Apr 30, 2018 4:23:14 GMT
My friend pointed out to me that protectorate is the only faction where units with proper shields don't have shield wall. Cam anyone think of a counter example? I really think cinerators should have shield wall base. But then not as many people would buy new shiny if Cinerators were already somewhat decently playable.
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Post by fanbloodytastic on Apr 30, 2018 5:47:59 GMT
My friend pointed out to me that protectorate is the only faction where units with proper shields don't have shield wall. Cam anyone think of a counter example? I really think cinerators should have shield wall base. I think there are a couple of others, the first two that jump to mind are troll kriel warriors and farrow Valkyrie.
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Post by Swampmist on Apr 30, 2018 6:09:01 GMT
Valks have bucklers, and have the buckler advantage.
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Post by mydnight on Apr 30, 2018 11:22:15 GMT
My friend pointed out to me that protectorate is the only faction where units with proper shields don't have shield wall. Cam anyone think of a counter example? I really think cinerators should have shield wall base. Trollkin warders have huge shields but no shield wall.
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