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Post by Cryptix on Dec 23, 2017 20:25:47 GMT
The drug is the alchemically refined blood of other warcasters. The Greylords Covenant also acquired this know-how; we should expect something interesting out of them as well. If there are going to be whole infantry units of mutated failed experiments, I would expect them from Khador But we already have those
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Post by W0lfBane on Dec 24, 2017 16:44:16 GMT
If there are going to be whole infantry units of mutated failed experiments, I would expect them from Khador But we already have those Is there something in the fluff that says that than ravagers tried to do the conversion to warpwolves and failed and that's why they ravage. Or are you taking the pies by saying that the males of a race of people (ugly males but still) are failed mutated experiments.
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Post by Cryptix on Dec 24, 2017 20:56:08 GMT
But we already have those Is there something in the fluff that says that than ravagers tried to do the conversion to warpwolves and failed and that's why they ravage. Or are you taking the pies by saying that the males of a race of people (ugly males but still) are failed mutated experiments. ...I was talking about the quality of the models.
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Post by W0lfBane on Dec 25, 2017 2:27:02 GMT
Is there something in the fluff that says that than ravagers tried to do the conversion to warpwolves and failed and that's why they ravage. Or are you taking the pies by saying that the males of a race of people (ugly males but still) are failed mutated experiments. ...I was talking about the quality of the models. I was honestly confused
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Post by NephMakes on Dec 25, 2017 16:27:44 GMT
Or are you taking the pies [...] "Taking the pies" sounds like something an American television station would dub over their broadcast of a British television show to make it more "family friendly".
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joedj
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Post by joedj on Dec 25, 2017 17:03:33 GMT
"Aurum Legate Lukas di Morray was beginning to look like the war leader they had risked so much to free" <-- Just don't make him look like Bane (DC Comics)
Demo Corps and Bombadier help, hopefully both in CA and Theme form, will make a lot of Khador players, myself included, thrilled. Fielding an all Man O War army, effectively, will have great visual appeal...attracting new players perhaps.
If Crucible Guard is as 'tightly' built as Grymkin (great roles of each model, great synergies, few 'mistakes'), and the models are the new plastics, I foresee a lot of folks purchasing them. Underdog storyline with unique look/tech, etc? Will CG be a 'limited' faction like CoC? (Probably, since they're rebel scum?)
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Post by W0lfBane on Dec 25, 2017 22:34:12 GMT
Or are you taking the pies [...] "Taking the pies" sounds like something an American television station would dub over their broadcast of a British television show to make it more "family friendly". Honestly I ain't mad at autocorrect this time
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Haight
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Post by Haight on Dec 27, 2017 0:05:57 GMT
I like the visual aesthetic of the Crucible Guard so far. Not sure about the distilled warcaster blood thing, but honestly, to me rules and aesthetic to me are tied for most important, with fluff a distant third (other's mileage will, of course, vary). I really dig Sylvestro's concept art even if it is a bit on the "epic gorman" side ; i'm a sucker for that kind of look. The rocketee's art and 3d model are pretty nifty too, as is the play on Jekyl and Hyde. Definitely going to watch this mini faction. If they keep up the cool looks and the rules are as tidy and tight a module as Grymkin's were I could see myself buying into these. joedj - I lack a link to back it up, but i'm almost positive i remember reading somewhere they would be a limited faction release a la CoC or Grymkin.
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Post by jisidro on Dec 27, 2017 11:20:28 GMT
The drug is the alchemically refined blood of other warcasters. The Greylords Covenant also acquired this know-how; we should expect something interesting out of them as well.
Is this established in a novel?
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Post by borderprince on Dec 27, 2017 14:52:19 GMT
The drug is the alchemically refined blood of other warcasters. The Greylords Covenant also acquired this know-how; we should expect something interesting out of them as well.
Is this established in a novel?
Aftershock - Acts of War II. But according to Lukas di Morray, the Greylords aren't that good at alchemy. Assuming that isn't just Order of the Golden Crucible arrogance, it seems likely that the Greylords are going to produce the monsters (and Khador is probably fine with doing that, and with using the monsters too), while the OGC get the warcasters. Conveniently that also prevents a massive upset to the balance of power between the major powers in Immoren - Khador being able to produce warcasters on demand would probably give an overwhelming advantage.
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Post by gobber on Dec 27, 2017 15:02:52 GMT
The drug is the alchemically refined blood of other warcasters. The Greylords Covenant also acquired this know-how; we should expect something interesting out of them as well.
Is this established in a novel?
Acts of War 2; Strakhov is keeping Lukas and Alyce prisoner while Ashlynn et al strive to free them. Strakhov manages to get the info from Lukas shortly before he's rescued. The Golden Crucible hasn't yet stabilized their serum as of the current fluff as you'll see in the quotes below (it killed everyone but lukas/alyce) but they obviously will achieve that in the near future in order to create Sylvestro. It seems safe to assume that they Greylords will do something with it as well especially as they're less concerned with the longevity of their test subjects which has been the major problem, and have ample sources of warcaster blood. Lukas' internal monologue worrying about this: "If he gave it to Strakhov, the warcaster would take it back to the Greylords Covenant, and they would attempt to unlock its secrets. Maybe they would improve on it, and such a thought was terrifying. If Khador could create warcasters at whim, even those with a third of the power Lukas commanded, they would gain an overwhelming advantage in battle. Irusk to Strakhov (after they get the info) "You obtained all the information you needed. Information the Greylords Covenant is already putting to use." Ash/Stryker/Magnus/Lukas talking afterwards about the serum in greylord hands: Mags: "Can he replicate what it has done to you and your wife?" Lukas: "No, and I told him as much. The serum is almost universally fatal. Only Alyce and I have experienced anything resembling a positive outcome." Stryker couldn't say whether what had happened to the two Order of the Golden Crucible members could be described as positive, but the idea of Khador being able to artificially create warcasters--or monstrosities like Alyce--was terrifying" "The Greylords Covenant is powerful and resourceful," he warned. "If they perfect what you have given them..." "They won't," di Morray said, anger clouding his face. "The best alchemists in the world have tried to make it viable and failed. Greylords may be skilled at ice magic and passably clever with mechanika, but alchemy is a more subtle and refined science. Let them chase their tails; perhaps it will keep them from focusing their energies on more productive research"
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jan 2, 2018 17:00:11 GMT
I'm just worried that if in the fluff, this serum gets out there and more factions experiment with it, we will end up with large based "Hulk" units or something of the sort. I'm not sure even the CG would have a unit of them.
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Lanz
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Post by Lanz on Jan 3, 2018 7:55:35 GMT
His name is Dragon Dragonvich. :/
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