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Post by mydnight on Jan 10, 2018 2:17:59 GMT
some. harkevich's arm skew will fart steam all over the storm blades then repo behind the cloud. some trolls are not particularly scared of this either. also there is a reason cygnar players don't use strom blades. they don't get there ever. i played against storm blades run by our best local cygnar dude running a nasty stryker1 ARM skew in strom division (i played ashlynn resistance!)and they all died. his lances, hurricane and strider lasted awhile, but the blades went poof. they are no longer in that list because that happened in every game Not sure why you are making out storm blades to being overly fragile. With arcane shield and rhupert they are def 14 arm 21 against shooting. Whatever can kill that will kill stormlances dead. This doesn't even take into account any further support a caster can bring. In LR they need a cloud wall or macbain to survive, but storm lances aren't that survivable in LR either.
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Jan 10, 2018 4:07:56 GMT
some. harkevich's arm skew will fart steam all over the storm blades then repo behind the cloud. some trolls are not particularly scared of this either. also there is a reason cygnar players don't use strom blades. they don't get there ever. i played against storm blades run by our best local cygnar dude running a nasty stryker1 ARM skew in strom division (i played ashlynn resistance!)and they all died. his lances, hurricane and strider lasted awhile, but the blades went poof. they are no longer in that list because that happened in every game Not sure why you are making out storm blades to being overly fragile. With arcane shield and rhupert they are def 14 arm 21 against shooting. Whatever can kill that will kill stormlances dead. This doesn't even take into account any further support a caster can bring. In LR they need a cloud wall or macbain to survive, but storm lances aren't that survivable in LR either. experience from multiple battles with multiple players. if our cygnar player can't keep them alive with stryker friggin 1 i sur aint bringin em. yes lances are squishy too but they get there. blades do not.
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Post by gobber on Jan 10, 2018 4:59:40 GMT
experience from multiple battles with multiple players. if our cygnar player can't keep them alive with stryker friggin 1 i sur aint bringin em. yes lances are squishy too but they get there. blades do not. I'm only going off a sample size of two games with them with Gastone, but i think the layered defenses & pathfinder provide way better delivery than Stryker1's single turn of absurd arm. The repositioning cloudwall, shield guard spam, turn of stealth, and turn of steadytough have gotten them there without worry both times thus far? Shooting that can deal with clouds/stealth/arm at the same time and retain the volume of fire to overcome the shield guards/tough is fairly rare. They can also take advantage of Gibbs' reposition/feign death and the feat turn gun & run move but I haven't got that to work out yet. Since I don't own storm lances yet they're probably the go to arm cracking cygnar unit; thus far they seem at least decent.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 10, 2018 9:09:33 GMT
I can confirm that Storm Blades are just not worth it, you are better off taking Storm Lances every time. Yes you can stack Arcane Shield or Dauntless Resolve, but you are better off putting defensive buffs on units with good defensive stats to start with, rather than buffing bad stats. Also Storm Lances threaten so much further, and hit much more accurately
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Post by fallenexile on Jan 17, 2018 23:18:33 GMT
Now that people have thier hands on the model, does anyone have any plans for how they want to base her?
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jan 18, 2018 6:06:13 GMT
The model already has a burst of flame taking most of the base, I would say either sculpt some burnt wood and ashes or just more flames.
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boozy
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Post by boozy on Jan 21, 2018 11:55:58 GMT
Now that people have thier hands on the model, does anyone have any plans for how they want to base her? I again think they missed the mark. I think I still want to saw her hand off, replace it with a chainsword, and find a shotgun for her other hand. Maybe shave and resculpt the torso to make it more cheesecake, and put a pile of Deadites...I mean Mechanithralls on the base, with her on top.
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Haight
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Post by Haight on Jan 21, 2018 14:55:46 GMT
Not sure why you are making out storm blades to being overly fragile. With arcane shield and rhupert they are def 14 arm 21 against shooting. Whatever can kill that will kill stormlances dead. This doesn't even take into account any further support a caster can bring. In LR they need a cloud wall or macbain to survive, but storm lances aren't that survivable in LR either. experience from multiple battles with multiple players. if our cygnar player can't keep them alive with stryker friggin 1 i sur aint bringin em. yes lances are Very long time cygnar player here, as i know some people in this thread know. I'm talking "played them as main faction from Escalation to well into MK3", and took several Executioner and Mage Hunter awards in several official MK1 and MK2 hardcore events. While stormblades are possibly better than they've ever been (with slight exception of some temporary MK2 Field Test incarnations that were laughably unlikely to be made permanent), they still are very rarely worth the effort you need to put into them. The problem is that any external fix you can apply to them is almost unilaterally not worth the external investment, or better applied to something else or multiple something elses. Stormblades are decent, but that's about it ; decent. There's almost always a better option for the cost investment for SB's relative to other options, as well as the support investment and dedication to get them to rise above their native worth. They aren't horrible, but ultimately, you play them because you like them, your theme won't allow better options (or you've taken the max / what you own of other options already). You don't take them for optimization of buffs ; there's far better targets for that. EDIT: forgot to echo the threat range sentiments others said. Lances have a far superior threat range given equivalent game states.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 21, 2018 20:20:11 GMT
Still not got my sculpt yet
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Post by leotherat on Jan 21, 2018 23:49:37 GMT
I got mine last Tuesday the 16th.
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Jan 22, 2018 2:07:31 GMT
i nabbed done off eBay on a whim, since my current ashlynn is basically an illegal kitbash of the ashlynn parts and the female jr. I played Ashlynn a lot this past year. some very dubious lists.
currently playing in resistance theme
ashlynn wishnailer mangler mangler nomad vanguard gorman (drop pod) eilish ragman gibbs max choir max flamebringers thorn mages thorn mages
liking the list so far, pairing with a shooty Crosse list
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Xintas
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Post by Xintas on Jan 22, 2018 14:39:27 GMT
I got mine at the end of last week and haven't had the time to put her together yet. Still undecided on what I want to use as a base, but I have some broken runic stones that I'm considering.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jan 23, 2018 18:50:03 GMT
I just now got the model in my hand, and in all honesty... I think I like the old alternate sculpt more. Still, this would look amazing when painted by a skilled artist; personally I don't think I have the skill to do it justice. Maybe someday.
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Post by fallenexile on Jan 23, 2018 18:54:44 GMT
I just now got the model in my hand, and in all honesty... I think I like the old alternate sculpt more. Still, this would look amazing when painted by a skilled artist; personally I don't think I have the skill to do it justice. Maybe someday. You know, I had the exact same thought. I REALLY like the model, but I think I like the flag-waving alt sculpt more... which is a shame because with a great paint job, this sculpt will definitely stand out.
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Post by smartalek on Jan 23, 2018 21:15:29 GMT
I really like the Ashes sculpt and painted mine like Marvel's Phoenix (just in time for LVO). I think it turned out pretty well except for the face.... I'm real bad at faces.....
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