shoe
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Post by shoe on Dec 23, 2017 16:45:16 GMT
haves to be mercenary
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Post by leotherat on Dec 23, 2017 16:57:12 GMT
In LR they are a merc unit so they have to take a merc jack.
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crow
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Post by crow on Dec 23, 2017 17:44:35 GMT
Would it be possible to take a Cygnar jack via the Arcane Tempest Gun Mage CA? Or would that have to be a merc jack? Has to be a merc jack, but the Mule, Mariner, and the Vanguard I've found benefit pretty huge from the Rune shot options... mostly snipe, but a crit dev + crit brutal under ashlyns feat is pretty nice with the mule. And the Vanguard likes a little extra range, and an occasional crit brutal (again usually Ashlyn's feat) is nice too. The Mariner... well heck with plus 4 inches to range, it gets some really nice threat with that gun! And the jack marshal bonuses are fairly nice for it.
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Post by fallenexile on Dec 23, 2017 18:22:17 GMT
Darn. Was hoping to grab a Cyclone.
Anyone have any thoughts on how well an Ashlynn LR list would pair with an Ossrum HS? I figure the Forge Guard and Siege Crawlers give enough armor cracking that maybe the LE should focus on magical shooting to combat GF -and Cryx in general- which seems to be a major weakness of HS(?) Im not really sure, to be honest.
My Ashlynn list would likely be a mix and match between 36Cygnar24Guy36's and Shoe's lists but with Gun Mages instead of Storm Lances. Ossrum HS would likely be double Crawler, Double Guard, no TAC, and 2x Driller with bunnies rounding out the list.
Thoughts on the pairing? Or the general direction of the lists?
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Dec 23, 2017 19:58:22 GMT
Darn. Was hoping to grab a Cyclone. Anyone have any thoughts on how well an Ashlynn LR list would pair with an Ossrum HS? I figure the Forge Guard and Siege Crawlers give enough armor cracking that maybe the LE should focus on magical shooting to combat GF -and Cryx in general- which seems to be a major weakness of HS(?) Im not really sure, to be honest. My Ashlynn list would likely be a mix and match between 36Cygnar24Guy36's and Shoe's lists but with Gun Mages instead of Storm Lances. Ossrum HS would likely be double Crawler, Double Guard, no TAC, and 2x Driller with bunnies rounding out the list. Thoughts on the pairing? Or the general direction of the lists? it depends on what is in ur meta. but it probably as good as anything. aslo shoe is not capitalized
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Post by eterenal on Dec 24, 2017 15:48:36 GMT
My local game store is running a journeyman league, and I've convinced the organizer to allow Ashlynn with an alternate battlegroup of Nomad, Talon, Vanguard. Should force me to play some less optimal choices given the format and get some games in vs. newer players. Hoping the new model comes in shortly before or at the start of the event.
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Post by fallenexile on Dec 24, 2017 18:03:31 GMT
Hoping the new model comes in shortly before or at the start of the event. From what I've been able to find, they ship on the 13th or so of the following month.
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Post by april on Dec 28, 2017 13:44:37 GMT
Why are people going for the Nomad when the Vanguard gets pathfinder in the theme?
Also if you are in the EU trying to get gibs at the moment is next to impossible
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Dec 28, 2017 13:47:16 GMT
Why are people going for the Nomad when the Vanguard gets pathfinder in the theme? Also if you are in the EU trying to get gibs at the moment is next to impossible u try and make a lalalese list without nomads and see where u get your beaters from. vanguards are luxuries
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Post by april on Dec 28, 2017 13:48:43 GMT
Why are people going for the Nomad when the Vanguard gets pathfinder in the theme? Also if you are in the EU trying to get gibs at the moment is next to impossible u try and make a lalalese list without nomads and see where u get your beaters from. vanguards are luxuries Chalange Accepted!
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crow
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Post by crow on Dec 28, 2017 17:30:49 GMT
Why are people going for the Nomad when the Vanguard gets pathfinder in the theme? Also if you are in the EU trying to get gibs at the moment is next to impossible u try and make a lalalese list without nomads and see where u get your beaters from. vanguards are luxuries Cause it’s 1 point more for a guaranteed easy pow 18. Imo if you use Ashlyn then vanguards are better by far. One additional mat and I believe two rat, one additional attack, pathfinder and shield guards. As for the lower hitting power, storm blades or lances, and rag man. The vanguards hit at pow 16 on main attack and storm blades / lances with +2 dmg hit fairly hard as well. Sure this is harder to pull off then a guaranteed pow 18, but it does the job in most cases. Armor skews obviously not, but that’s why you get two lists in tourney
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Dec 28, 2017 22:19:21 GMT
u try and make a lalalese list without nomads and see where u get your beaters from. vanguards are luxuries Cause it’s 1 point more for a guaranteed easy pow 18. Imo if you use Ashlyn then vanguards are better by far. One additional mat and I believe two rat, one additional attack, pathfinder and shield guards. As for the lower hitting power, storm blades or lances, and rag man. The vanguards hit at pow 16 on main attack and storm blades / lances with +2 dmg hit fairly hard as well. Sure this is harder to pull off then a guaranteed pow 18, but it does the job in most cases. Armor skews obviously not, but that’s why you get two lists in tourney yeah i thought all that stuff too and then i took it and wanted to hit something real hard and i couldn't and i was all "aw hell"
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Post by mikethefish on Dec 29, 2017 5:17:05 GMT
Darn. Was hoping to grab a Cyclone. Anyone have any thoughts on how well an Ashlynn LR list would pair with an Ossrum HS? I figure the Forge Guard and Siege Crawlers give enough armor cracking that maybe the LE should focus on magical shooting to combat GF -and Cryx in general- which seems to be a major weakness of HS(?) Im not really sure, to be honest. My Ashlynn list would likely be a mix and match between 36Cygnar24Guy36's and Shoe's lists but with Gun Mages instead of Storm Lances. Ossrum HS would likely be double Crawler, Double Guard, no TAC, and 2x Driller with bunnies rounding out the list. Thoughts on the pairing? Or the general direction of the lists? it depends on what is in ur meta. but it probably as good as anything. aslo shoe is not capitalized Says the guy who misspells practically every word he writes.
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Post by borderprince on Dec 29, 2017 6:21:19 GMT
Cause it’s 1 point more for a guaranteed easy pow 18. Imo if you use Ashlyn then vanguards are better by far. One additional mat and I believe two rat, one additional attack, pathfinder and shield guards. As for the lower hitting power, storm blades or lances, and rag man. The vanguards hit at pow 16 on main attack and storm blades / lances with +2 dmg hit fairly hard as well. Sure this is harder to pull off then a guaranteed pow 18, but it does the job in most cases. Armor skews obviously not, but that’s why you get two lists in tourney yeah i thought all that stuff too and then i took it and wanted to hit something real hard and i couldn't and i was all "aw hell" I don't think the suggestion is to drop all Nomads though. Two Nomads still isn't terrible hitting power if the list isn't the one meant to go into ARM skew match-ups (and Ashlynn doesn't really have the focus/jack support to do that well). A Vanguard or two improves the list's role as the anti-gunline list, which is likely to be the case if you're running the Trencher cloudwall. Most the Resistance lists I come up with also seem to end up with quite a high volume of attacks (assault attacks from Trenchers/Stormwhatevers, 2 shots per Gunmage) and the Vanguard plays into that approach a bit more than the Nomad.
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Dec 29, 2017 9:06:25 GMT
it depends on what is in ur meta. but it probably as good as anything. aslo shoe is not capitalized Says the guy who misspells practically every word he writes. simply because i choose to misspell what i please does not excuse anyone else's grammar!!
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