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Post by bane on Dec 17, 2017 9:15:09 GMT
Hi I was hoping somebody could confirm for us the following
If a unit of doom reavers charges a target(s) does the grey lord escort also have to charge and use his lame staff or can he still use his spray?
Or is it that he can only use his spray if the unit doesn't charge?
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Post by welshhoppo on Dec 17, 2017 10:15:50 GMT
You can't use a special actions or attack (which is what a spell is) without forfeiting your action. Seeing as you need an action to declare a press forward, then you cannot charge and cast a spell.
Unless however, the special attack is tied to a weapon. For example thresher is a special attack from a weapon. Then you can charge and do it.
However the Greylord does have battle wizard if I remember. So if you kill a model in melee, you can put out a spell.
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Post by zich on Dec 17, 2017 12:34:16 GMT
You can't use a special actions or attack (which is what a spell is) without forfeiting your action. Seeing as you need an action to declare a press forward, then you cannot charge and cast a spell. Unless however, the special attack is tied to a weapon. For example thresher is a special attack from a weapon. Then you can charge and do it. However the Greylord does have battle wizard if I remember. So if you kill a model in melee, you can put out a spell. Some corrections. You don't need to forfeit your combat action to make a special attack. It is one of the options you have at the start of your combat action. Otherwise an Ironclad choosing to tremor could not buy any more attacks. In this case, making a melee (!!) special attack is one of the options at the start of one's combat action when charging. Melee special attacks are special attacks on melee weapons. You don't need an action to "declare a press forward". Press Forward is an order given by a unit commander to all members of the same unit within CMD. Affected models must then run out charge, which does require a combat action to successfully accomplish. Spells are also not generally special actions. However the use of the Magic Ability, which allows the casting of spells is either a special action or a special attack. |
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Post by Blargaliscious on Dec 17, 2017 21:25:07 GMT
Hi I was hoping somebody could confirm for us the following If a unit of doom reavers charges a target(s) does the grey lord escort also have to charge and use his lame staff or can he still use his spray? Or is it that he can only use his spray if the unit doesn't charge? The Greylord Escort is the unit kommander of the Doom Reavers and he would issue the "Press Forward" order to the whole squad. Since he is a member of the squad, he would also have to either charge or run, so he would also have to make a charge attack with his lame staff Orgoth Staff while the Doom Reavers would attack with their Fellblades. Models that charge may only make melee attacks as part of a charge. There is a bit of an exception in the regards to the rule "Battle Wizard." The Greylord Escort does not have the rule "Battle Wizard" inherent to him, but he would have that rule if the Greylord Escort were within the kommand range of a Koldun Lord (whose CMD = 9, therefore 9") who can grant "Not Lame" "Battle Wizard" to Greylord models in his kommand range. "Battle Wizard" allows a model to make one Magic Ability special attack after destroying one or more enemy models with a melee attack. So, unless there is a Koldun Lord nearby, the only time that the Greylord Escort can make a Spray magic attack is when the squad is not given the "Press Forward" order - when they don't charge. By the way, since we are talking about Khador here, the words are spelled "kommand" and "kommander." I did not spell them incorrectly. |
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Post by bane on Dec 18, 2017 9:35:07 GMT
Thanks Blargalicious! That really helps!
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