|
New ADR!
Dec 14, 2017 12:38:12 GMT
via mobile
Post by Havock on Dec 14, 2017 12:38:12 GMT
But I want guns with S1, and she doesn't run jacks well enough.
WGK would be possible if it didn't deny you the Gobber.
|
|
|
Post by welshhoppo on Dec 14, 2017 12:59:03 GMT
Well you say that. But I use Behemoth and 2 Destroyers. So under feat turn you can get 4 boosted damage bombard for no focus input from Sorscha. It's pretty good. She helps with the accuracy.
|
|
|
New ADR!
Dec 14, 2017 15:00:03 GMT
via mobile
Post by Armchair Warrior on Dec 14, 2017 15:00:03 GMT
Well you say that. But I use Behemoth and 2 Destroyers. So under feat turn you can get 4 boosted damage bombard for no focus input from Sorscha. It's pretty good. She helps with the accuracy. Do you include Eiryss or Reinholdt ? (Man I wish the Spriggan was good and not so expensive.) Destroyers on the Koldun, right?
|
|
|
Post by welshhoppo on Dec 14, 2017 15:06:24 GMT
Nope, all on Sorscha. So they get the one focus from the power up and the Seers can dish out 2 more. I generally find that I'm not fussed on the Jack marshals. But I could see the benefit of putting one on a Forgeseer.
I only picked up Eiryss1 yesterday, so she'll probably try and squeeze her elvish ways into my lists someone.
I don't actually own Reinholt.
|
|
|
New ADR!
Dec 14, 2017 15:08:39 GMT
via mobile
Post by Havock on Dec 14, 2017 15:08:39 GMT
For assassination yeah, I guess that works, although the new terrain rules make her assassination harder to pull off.
I suppose Jaws is decent for her though, although themes have difficulty making the most of ADR. Our themes at least.
I mean, what are you gonna slot in LoS? Uhlans vs more dudes? Maybe a bunch of marauders if you draw an anti-meatbag list. I'd probably do that with Kozlov: take 4 in vanguard and swap them for conquest and mech if the matchup favors that.
WGK would have flexibility if AK's were worth their points.
|
|
|
New ADR!
Dec 14, 2017 15:10:07 GMT
via mobile
Post by Havock on Dec 14, 2017 15:10:07 GMT
Reinhold is amazing with S1. Lucky charm and spyglass specifically.
I refuse to play her into WGK for that reason.
|
|
|
Post by auraco on Dec 14, 2017 15:49:02 GMT
I'd actually try her in WGK, I'm pretty sure there's a balance reason why WGK only allows non character solos. I'd give it a try before outright refusing to play it.
|
|
|
New ADR!
Dec 14, 2017 16:43:00 GMT
via mobile
Post by Havock on Dec 14, 2017 16:43:00 GMT
Might as well just play Vlad.
It's not terrible but she's FOCUS6, you need a hand if you want to throw her signature spell around.
|
|
|
New ADR!
Dec 14, 2017 17:16:30 GMT
via mobile
Post by welshhoppo on Dec 14, 2017 17:16:30 GMT
I'd actually try her in WGK, I'm pretty sure there's a balance reason why WGK only allows non character solos. I'd give it a try before outright refusing to play it. Probably to prevent Vlad1 gaining easy access to stealth removal.
|
|
|
Post by smoothcriminal on Dec 14, 2017 17:33:12 GMT
S1 wgk is one of more common lists out there. With A&H&V hanging out on specialist bench it's a nightmare list for Cryx to face. It also randomly is good against people who rely on def skew like Legion or Circle and other infantry spammers like Menoth, Makeda cats, opposing Khador, etc. And it's decent in gunline vs. gunlive matchup because you give your dudes +2 def against shooting and can freeze opposing dudes. Even if you get list chickened into playing her against arm skew you can just kill the caster so it's not autolose. S1 wgk is solid. You just have to figure out what you throw against arm between OW2, Kozlov, V3 (it's probably OW2) and you're set.
|
|
|
Post by auraco on Dec 14, 2017 18:02:07 GMT
I'd actually try her in WGK, I'm pretty sure there's a balance reason why WGK only allows non character solos. I'd give it a try before outright refusing to play it. Probably to prevent Vlad1 gaining easy access to stealth removal. Exactly, and I'm OK with Vlad1 rockets having a weakness.
|
|
|
Post by welshhoppo on Dec 14, 2017 18:45:43 GMT
Probably to prevent Vlad1 gaining easy access to stealth removal. Exactly, and I'm OK with Vlad1 rockets having a weakness. As opposed to Vlads actual weakness which is he's as boring to play as drying paint.
|
|
|
Post by hocestbellum on Dec 14, 2017 19:39:13 GMT
I'd actually try her in WGK, I'm pretty sure there's a balance reason why WGK only allows non character solos. I'd give it a try before outright refusing to play it. I always assumed it was Madelyn they were trying to stop, as not being able to melee a warcaster you also can't shoot effectively would be very difficult to deal with.
|
|
|
Post by borderprince on Dec 15, 2017 8:24:43 GMT
Exactly, and I'm OK with Vlad1 rockets having a weakness. As opposed to Vlads actual weakness which is he's as boring to play as drying paint. Depends how you build the list. Vlad1 rocket spam is dull for all concerned. A more varied list (jacks, Fun Carriage, mix of Rifles and WGI) can be fun to play with and against and I'm not convinced it's worse than rocket spam (it certainly has fewer hard counters).
|
|
wendan
Junior Strategist
Posts: 785
|
Post by wendan on Jan 2, 2018 17:07:54 GMT
Kozlov and OW2/S1 could be neat! Kozlov can go mow heavy and the others can either use jacks or shooting.
|
|