Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Dec 6, 2017 19:27:09 GMT
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3 Good casters, 1 average one. Giving up Madrak 1 is tough right now.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Dec 6, 2017 19:34:56 GMT
who do you consider the average caster?
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Dec 6, 2017 19:36:04 GMT
who do you consider the average caster? Borka2
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Post by macdaddy on Dec 6, 2017 20:05:40 GMT
who do you consider the average caster? Borka2 I really think you underestimate him
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Post by Hotwater on Dec 6, 2017 20:29:00 GMT
I think it's more like three great casters and one good one.
Madrak1 is a trap.
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Dec 6, 2017 21:07:03 GMT
I think it's more like three great casters and one good one. Madrak1 is a trap. Lolwut
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Post by adakai on Dec 6, 2017 21:46:12 GMT
I think it's more like three great casters and one good one. Madrak1 is a trap. Lolwut Surely he must mean, "Madrak1 is a trap.... for the opponent. Its a lose-lose situation for them >:] ::snicker snicker::" I'm sure that's what he meant.
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Post by macdaddy on Dec 6, 2017 21:58:26 GMT
I think it's more like three great casters and one good one. Madrak1 is a trap. Wait...so does that mean madrack 1 is gay?....(if you don't get the joke just ignore it) I can verify madrack 1 is a really solid caster. He is by no means a trap.
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Dec 6, 2017 22:29:48 GMT
TBH I think this ADR might be a bit of a trap. If ADR allowed for swapping out our Merc/minion options for other Merc/minion options it would be amazing. But otherwise Vanguard has little value for us IMO. PoD you can swap a double bomber setup for double mauler pyre or something along those lines but SotN is relatively on rails, BoH and KC are in similar situations.
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gorsk
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Post by gorsk on Dec 6, 2017 22:59:04 GMT
I am on the waitlist for both the Champion and standard events at Captaincon. It will be my first real event. As of right now my ADR choice is easy, I own Ragnor and Kolgrima. It might be a nice excuse to get a borka2, but Mrs. Claus already brought me northkin goodies.
Maybe Kolgrima in SotN for anti-shooting and Ragnor in PoD for anti-armor. Though I am not sure where to fit in RFP. Maybe I need to finish assembling my champs and longriders to escort Kolgrima in BoH?
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Dec 7, 2017 10:46:15 GMT
I am on the waitlist for both the Champion and standard events at Captaincon. It will be my first real event. As of right now my ADR choice is easy, I own Ragnor and Kolgrima. It might be a nice excuse to get a borka2, but Mrs. Claus already brought me northkin goodies. Maybe Kolgrima in SotN for anti-shooting and Ragnor in PoD for anti-armor. Though I am not sure where to fit in RFP. Maybe I need to finish assembling my champs and longriders to escort Kolgrima in BoH? I am very reluctant to try Kolgrimma in Band or KC again. The Mulg-Node helps her a lot and so does the Northkin Elder, especially when her whole army is sped up by him and immune to cold to boot. Now that I know the roster I will go back to working on Kolgrimma in POD and I will see if she can run enough Northkin beasts to use the Northkin Elder. I have one Brawler and a GK and I will get an Ice Troll next month. I am looking at Champions at either LVO or more likely Adepticon, especially with this roster. I will see what everyone else has.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Dec 7, 2017 10:47:42 GMT
TBH I think this ADR might be a bit of a trap. If ADR allowed for swapping out our Merc/minion options for other Merc/minion options it would be amazing. But otherwise Vanguard has little value for us IMO. PoD you can swap a double bomber setup for double mauler pyre or something along those lines but SotN is relatively on rails, BoH and KC are in similar situations. Vanguard in Masters might not be as good as I had thought, but that's just in general. I am looking at this more for Champions.
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Dec 7, 2017 20:45:28 GMT
TBH I think this ADR might be a bit of a trap. If ADR allowed for swapping out our Merc/minion options for other Merc/minion options it would be amazing. But otherwise Vanguard has little value for us IMO. PoD you can swap a double bomber setup for double mauler pyre or something along those lines but SotN is relatively on rails, BoH and KC are in similar situations. Vanguard in Masters might not be as good as I had thought, but that's just in general. I am looking at this more for Champions. Yeah this set is really solid for champs, both Kolgrima and Grim can play dual duty as question and answer, and that's not even looking at Ragnor and Bearka. Vanguard isn't as good as it was in MKII when themes weren't as broadly played (sure they dominated the meta when op but by virtue of being tied to individual warlocks you rarely took a pair of double theme excepting trolls so you could easily have at least one list that could take advantage of it).
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Post by mattmcd on Dec 8, 2017 2:32:04 GMT
I don’t think y’all are giving Warders, axers and solos enough thought in this ADR conversation. A min unit of warders can be game saving into a few key matchups. An axer into a matchup that you know having it gives you the alpha would be key. Slag trolls are the norm for good reason and are amazing with all of these options. I have considered leaving axers behind in many cases with merc solo options, this makes that a little safer bet.
I do wish it would let us pick between merc/min solos though.
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Dec 8, 2017 6:23:22 GMT
I don’t think y’all are giving Warders, axers and solos enough thought in this ADR conversation. A min unit of warders can be game saving into a few key matchups. An axer into a matchup that you know having it gives you the alpha would be key. Slag trolls are the norm for good reason and are amazing with all of these options. I have considered leaving axers behind in many cases with merc solo options, this makes that a little safer bet. I do wish it would let us pick between merc/min solos though. Well if I put an Axer in virtually every list I make, how am I supposed to slot it in with ADR?
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