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redcathal
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Buying into orboros Dec 4, 2017 14:45:16 GMT via mobile

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Post by redcathal on Dec 4, 2017 14:45:16 GMT

So my faction ADD is kicking in about 10 months after starting legion I'm finding myself feeling kinda meh about the casters/lists and looking elsewhere particularly with themageddon making bf list building kind of odd. That said if you haven't started a faction it's a handy buying guide so I've made 4 lists- 1 for each of the themes that I like the look of (sorry secret masters)

First stolen shamelessly from the grayle tactica
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Circle Orboros - Grayle

Theme: The Wild Hunt
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Grayle the Farstrider - WB: +29
- Feral Warpwolf - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 18)
- Rip Horn Satyr - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)
- Shadowhorn Satyr - PC: 12

Reeve Hunter - PC: 0
Wolf Lord Morraig - PC: 8
- Wolf Lord Morraig (Continued)
War Wolf - PC: 2
War Wolf - PC: 2
War Wolf - PC: 2

Reeves of Orboros - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
Wolves of Orboros - Leader & 9 Grunts: 11
- Wolves of Orboros Chieftain & Standard - Chieftain & Standard Bearer: 4
Warpborn Skinwalkers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 15
- Warpborn Skinwalker Alpha - PC: 0

THEME: The Wild Hunt
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GENERATED : 12/04/2017 14:40:39
BUILD ID : 2055.17-11-21

Pack hunter and lots of spirit doors seems fun

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Circle Orboros - Kaya

Theme: Call of the Wild
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Kaya the Wildborne - WB: +32
- Druid Wilder - PC: 4
- Feral Warpwolf - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 18)
- Gnarlhorn Satyr - PC: 12 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12)
- Pureblood Warpwolf - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 2)
- Rip Horn Satyr - PC: 14
- Shadowhorn Satyr - PC: 12
- Warpwolf Stalker - PC: 19
- Wild Argus - PC: 7

Lord of the Feast - PC: 0
Blackclad Wayfarer - PC: 0
Blackclad Wayfarer - PC: 0
Swamp Gobber Chef - PC: 1

Shifting Stones - Leader & 2 Grunts: 3

THEME: Call of the Wild
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GENERATED : 12/04/2017 14:42:07
BUILD ID : 2055.17-11-21

Not sure about this one but the models look really cool

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Circle Orboros - Kromac

Theme: The Devourer's Host
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Kromac, Champion of the Wurm - WB: +28
- Ghetorix - PC: 21 (Battlegroup Points Used: 21)
- Pureblood Warpwolf - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7)
- Gorax Rager - PC: 7
- Wild Argus - PC: 7

Tharn Ravager White Mane - PC: 0
Tharn Ravager Shaman - PC: 5
Bloodweaver Night Witch - PC: 4
Bloodweaver Night Witch - PC: 4
Lord of the Feast - PC: 6

Tharn Ravagers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 16
- Tharn Ravager Chieftain - PC: 0
Tharn Bloodweavers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 8
Tharn Bloodweavers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 8

THEME: The Devourer's Host
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GENERATED : 12/04/2017 14:42:29
BUILD ID : 2055.17-11-21

Finally I've never played a control list so I kinda like the look of Krueger

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Circle Orboros - Krueger

Theme: The Bones of Orboros
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Krueger the Stormlord - WB: +27
- Wold Guardian - PC: 16
- Woldwarden - PC: 14
- Woldwrath - PC: 37 (Battlegroup Points Used: 27)
- Megalith - PC: 20

Blackclad Stoneshaper - PC: 3
Blackclad Stoneshaper - PC: 0
Blackclad Stoneshaper - PC: 0
Blackclad Wayfarer - PC: 0
Gallows Grove - PC: 2

Sentry Stone & Mannikins - Leader & 3 Grunts: 5
Sentry Stone & Mannikins - Leader & 3 Grunts: 5

THEME: The Bones of Orboros
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GENERATED : 12/04/2017 14:42:46
BUILD ID : 2055.17-11-21

Anyway let me know if I'm mad or if those lists look semi-competitive/fun to play or what possible pairings there are in those

redcathal
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Buying into orboros Dec 4, 2017 15:25:05 GMT via mobile

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Post by redcathal on Dec 4, 2017 15:25:05 GMT

Update will have the following models from a friend shortly: 1 shifting stones, the sentry stone unit, the ravagers with the chieftain and shaman, 2 will arguses(argii), a warpwolf (not sure what one), ghetorix, gnarlhorn satyr, rip horn satyr, wold guardian, wold wrath, 1 lord of the feast, a wayfarer, kaya1, skinwalkers with the alpha

goodjazz
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Jep, I like Trees and Elephants.

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Buying into orboros Dec 4, 2017 16:38:24 GMT

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Post by goodjazz on Dec 4, 2017 16:38:24 GMT

So what exactly is your question? Are you planning to buy the models for one of the lists, or are you planning to get everything? Last one would look super expensive. oO

Clifnotes: Kaya1 as a caster is not really competative, but probably fun to play. Same goes with the satyrs, which happen to appear a lot in your lists. When I tried to make Kromac2 work in Call of the Wild I kind of failed, maybe he is better in Tharn, although he is not really supportive for units. Ravenger Chieftain in the command range of a Whitemane punching something in the controlrange of Kromac will have MAT 11 though (as long as carnage is up) and with overtake + hearthtokens he might well eat one or two units on his own.

That said I would say that all of these Lists are fun to play but not tourney-winning. The Krueger List looks strongest to me, and the Kaya list looks like it will lacks of punch and might be a little frustrating to play.

PS Don't take me too serious, I started playing less than a year ago and should not be handled as an expert.

Last Edit: Dec 4, 2017 16:41:50 GMT by goodjazz

darkshroud Junior Strategist Posts: 419	Buying into orboros Dec 4, 2017 17:31:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by darkshroud on Dec 4, 2017 17:31:20 GMT can confrim about kromac2. ive tried some lists with him and fail. clearly there is something im not seeing.

redcathal
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Buying into orboros Dec 5, 2017 14:33:01 GMT

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Post by redcathal on Dec 5, 2017 14:33:01 GMT

Hey sorry possibly should have been clearer, I'm not looking to be super-competitive but mostly to have fun. That being said no one likes to lose so I'd like to be semi-competitive.

Part of the problem I ran into with legion is lack of diversity so that's why I made 4 very different lists. Starting by building two that look somewhat like the above or a revised version of them adn then kicking on and adding a third/fourth etc.

How would some more punch be added to the Kaya list?

goodjazz
Mangled Metaler

Jep, I like Trees and Elephants.

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Buying into orboros Dec 5, 2017 16:06:10 GMT

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Post by goodjazz on Dec 5, 2017 16:06:10 GMT

I have no idea currently.

Maybe start with two of the other Lists, or prox it and see how it goes. I would recommend starting with Krueger and Grayle. But before you order something I would hope that one of the more experienced players might give some more input.

36cygnar24guy36
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Buying into orboros Dec 5, 2017 16:15:45 GMT

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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Dec 5, 2017 16:15:45 GMT

I would not put a Woldwrath on Kreuger, he does not have an arm buff to help it survive like Baldur does, it cannot Geomancy TK and Gallows, it cannot benefit from being TKd itself as a threat extender and it is only ps 19 so does not even provide a much of an improvement in arm cracking over a Wold Guardian.

I would take either more heavies, or a fulcrum or some Wold Wyrds, or any combination thereof

streetpizza
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Buying into orboros Dec 5, 2017 16:23:48 GMT macdaddy likes this

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Post by streetpizza on Dec 5, 2017 16:23:48 GMT

For Grayle I would drop the Reeve hunter and add in the Reeve UA. The reeves lose a lot of their functionality when they can't CRA into melee and the UA solves that problem. The hunter giving them quick work is ... less than optimal.

For Kaya the best way to give her more punch is to use Kaya2 instead. Kaya1 is a quirky caster at best and not recommended for faction new comers. Your list swaps over pretty well although you'll have to lose a heavy and downgrade to a light. Feral to Gorax is probably the easiest to do that with here if you want to keep the goats theme intact.

In the Kromac list you can swap out the LotF for another whitemane which should net you a fifth heart token to work with. Alternatively swap the LotF and a unit of bloodweavers for blood trackers + swamp gobbers and give yourself some skirmish capability to help force your opponent's hand. The gobbers help keep Kromac safer throughout the game.

Last Edit: Dec 5, 2017 16:44:11 GMT by streetpizza

Post by redcathal on Dec 4, 2017 14:45:16 GMT

Post by redcathal on Dec 4, 2017 15:25:05 GMT

Post by goodjazz on Dec 4, 2017 16:38:24 GMT

Post by darkshroud on Dec 4, 2017 17:31:20 GMT

Post by redcathal on Dec 5, 2017 14:33:01 GMT

Post by goodjazz on Dec 5, 2017 16:06:10 GMT

Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Dec 5, 2017 16:15:45 GMT

Post by streetpizza on Dec 5, 2017 16:23:48 GMT