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Post by drillbossd on Nov 27, 2017 5:49:10 GMT
Hey folks,
Seeing the thread on "most expensive lists" got me thinking:
What are some of the *cheapest* (in $$) lists that are fun to play? Fun to you could mean "powerful" or it could mean something else--feel free to explain why you like the list.
Will post some after I check out the cost of my favorite beast bricks.
Cheers,
Drillboss
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Cyel
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Post by Cyel on Nov 27, 2017 6:06:01 GMT
I guess some kind of a spam of battlegroup starter warjacks/warbeasts would be the way to go.
Allowing conversions and/or alternatives from other miniature producers would open a lot of options too.
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Post by borderprince on Nov 27, 2017 6:46:54 GMT
Probably not cheapest, but fairly cheap for Khador. Also probably good - this is a variant of a list I've actually used:
Jaws of the Wolf theme: 73 points
Strakhov1 (cheap model and likes premium warjacks, which is good for point to money efficiency)
-Behemoth
-Grolar
-Torch
-Kodiak
-Kodiak
Kayazy Eliminators
Kayazy Eliminators
Widowmaker Marksman
Yuri the axe (free, sadly only in points)
Manhunter (free)
Manhunter (free)
From the PP store, $302.87 (or $301.87 if you get the variant Manhunter from PP store and aren't paying postage/customs duties). As a bonus, it uses lots of the more recently released jack kits, which look so much better than the plastic Juggernaut kit.
Playing in theme obviously makes the list more expensive, as you have more models to purchase.
The list has up to 6 points of sniper damage a turn (put Sentry on the Marksman), small units for scenario, hard-hitting combat solos who can move pretty freely, some good AoEs and Vent Steam for crowd-clearing, 3 good jacks for assassination and 2 Kodiaks for piece-trading/throwing inconveniently placed models out of the way. And it's fast. But assassination is almost always on the table, and it's stronger in scenario than a list with relatively few units might appear to be. Will struggle into ARM spam (Karchev type lists) or double colossal lists.
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Post by droopingpuppy on Nov 27, 2017 7:26:32 GMT
conflictchamber.com/#c1201b7C9H9H9H9H9HakagagCygnar Army - 75 / 75 points (Stryker 1) Commander Coleman Stryker [+30] - Stormclad [18] - Stormclad [18] - Stormclad [18] - Stormclad [18] - Stormclad [18] - Squire [5] Gun Mage Captain Adept [5] Gun Mage Captain Adept [5] 7.99+(34.99)×5+(8.99)×2+9.99=210.91 USD. Although not optimized, but still playable too. Generally the best bet is spamming elite warjacks, since its price is not so diffrent with the cheap basic beatstics but has much more points.
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tomw
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Post by tomw on Nov 27, 2017 9:11:19 GMT
I’d have thought the best way to go would be buying a bunch of battle boxes. 4 Cryx battle boxes gets you:
Theme: Black Industries
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Captain Aiakos - WJ: +29
- Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
- Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
- Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
- Slayer - PC: 10
- Reaper - PC: 13
- Reaper - PC: 13
- Reaper - PC: 13
- Reaper - PC: 13
- Deathripper - PC: 0
- Deathripper - PC: 0
- Deathripper - PC: 0
Necrotech - PC: 2
Scrap Thrall - 3 Scrap Thrall: 2
The Devil's Shadow Mutineers - Mar, Morland, & Zira: 8
All for less than $220. Im not a Cryx player, so this might be terrible, but spd 9 assaulting reapers sounds fun to me! Also, the devils shadow have a terrible money-to-points ratio so they drag the cost up a bit and should probably be switched if we’re trying to maximise value, but they seem pretty solid as zone scorers.
Could any of the other battle boxes be spammed better than this?
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Cyel
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Post by Cyel on Nov 27, 2017 9:46:41 GMT
Skorne Army - 75 / 75 points (Morghoul 1) Master Tormentor Morghoul [+30] - Cyclops Raider [9] - Cyclops Raider [9] - Cyclops Savage [7] - Cyclops Savage [7] - Cyclops Savage [7] - Cyclops Savage [7] - Titan Gladiator [15] - Titan Gladiator [15] - Titan Gladiator [15] Paingiver Bloodrunner Master Tormentor [4] Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5] Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5] Two mk3 battlegroup starters (80), one mk2 battlegroup starter (50), 4 Beast Handler blisters (40) and you convert one of Xekaars into a Bloodrunner Master Tormentor (easy job, probably just cutting off one of the whips would be enough) In total 170$, 130 if you factor in the current sale price for the mk2 starter  (but then why not build the army out of mk2 starters anyway;)?) Also it's extremely easy to get more variety by very simple and cheap conversions. Making a Brute out of a Savage is really easy, just like making a Sentry or even Tiberion out of a Gladiator. |
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Post by W0lfBane on Nov 27, 2017 14:09:18 GMT
I'm at work so i can't do the math but what about absylonia and all the shredders. I think the shredders come in boxes of 4.
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whydak
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Post by whydak on Nov 27, 2017 14:22:58 GMT
I'm at work so i can't do the math but what about absylonia and all the shredders. I think the shredders come in boxes of 4. Or sth like mk2 battlebox with (Carnivean +4 shredders) x2/3+ more shredders,optional proteus upgarde kit and it should work. |
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Post by minmaximus on Nov 27, 2017 14:32:31 GMT
Presuming no solos or theme, you're at 72/75 points loading up on 25 Shredders. $25 for Abyslonia, $15/4 for the Shredders. You're looking at $120 for an army that contains more Shredders than Everblight would ever approve of, but honestly, there's probably worse things in the world than MAT7(9 if Abby does anything) POW10(12 on feat) weaponmasters who threat 9.5-13" with pathfinder or flight that can boost.
Really the only problem is the turn after you hit the enemy army, every model you have will go completely apeshit eating each other, which is only a problem if you don't find it hilarious. If you count the mk2 battlebox deal you could probably cut the price of this list in half due to the Carniveans.
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Post by borderprince on Nov 27, 2017 14:37:11 GMT
I’d have thought the best way to go would be buying a bunch of battle boxes. 4 Cryx battle boxes gets you: Theme: Black Industries 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Captain Aiakos - WJ: +29 - Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Slayer - PC: 10 - Reaper - PC: 13 - Reaper - PC: 13 - Reaper - PC: 13 - Reaper - PC: 13 - Deathripper - PC: 0 - Deathripper - PC: 0 - Deathripper - PC: 0 Necrotech - PC: 2 Scrap Thrall - 3 Scrap Thrall: 2 The Devil's Shadow Mutineers - Mar, Morland, & Zira: 8 All for less than $220. Im not a Cryx player, so this might be terrible, but spd 9 assaulting reapers sounds fun to me! Also, the devils shadow have a terrible money-to-points ratio so they drag the cost up a bit and should probably be switched if we’re trying to maximise value, but they seem pretty solid as zone scorers. Could any of the other battle boxes be spammed better than this? Might be better (but a little more expensive) with one of the stronger jack casters in Cryx? Venethrax could be fun for lots of counter-charging Slayers. Gaspy3 gives unyielding (so ARM21 vs shooting and ARM19 in melee) and Mobility for +2SPD and Mobility. Changing the Devil's Shadow to Cephylax Overlords also saves $6 and isn't a bad choice. |
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Post by W0lfBane on Nov 27, 2017 15:38:43 GMT
Presuming no solos or theme, you're at 72/75 points loading up on 25 Shredders. $25 for Abyslonia, $15/4 for the Shredders. You're looking at $120 for an army that contains more Shredders than Everblight would ever approve of, but honestly, there's probably worse things in the world than MAT7(9 if Abby does anything) POW10(12 on feat) weaponmasters who threat 9.5-13" with pathfinder or flight that can boost. Really the only problem is the turn after you hit the enemy army, every model you have will go completely apeshit eating each other, which is only a problem if you don't find it hilarious. If you count the mk2 battlebox deal you could probably cut the price of this list in half due to the Carniveans. And for a few more bucks you can add a couple of solos and maybe even make it a theme list somehow. Boom fun list |
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 27, 2017 16:32:10 GMT
Based on the Brand new Holiday BB sale: Syntehrion: Destruction Initiative -4 Cyphers -4 Galvanizers -3 Diffusers 5 units of assorted servitors $86.93 Might even be competitive  |
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Post by W0lfBane on Nov 27, 2017 18:21:47 GMT
Based on the Brand new Holiday BB sale: Syntehrion: Destruction Initiative -4 Cyphers -4 Galvanizers -3 Diffusers 5 units of assorted servitors $86.93 Might even be competitive But that price won't be available in a little bit of time. Like right now there is a sale on miniature market where you can get 4 shredders for 7.50 each. So i could make the Absolonia list for 85 bucks. But that is not gonna last very long. |
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Post by drillbossd on Nov 27, 2017 20:03:10 GMT
Sub-$100 lists, wild!
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Post by drillbossd on Nov 27, 2017 20:54:17 GMT
I'm at work so i can't do the math but what about absylonia and all the shredders. I think the shredders come in boxes of 4. Or sth like mk2 battlebox with (Carnivean +4 shredders) x2/3+ more shredders,optional proteus upgarde kit and it should work. How cheaply can this happen? conflictchamber.com/#ca201b_-0tewaQaQbw2929292929292929292929bbbbcob9b9Legion Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Oracles of Annihilation (Absylonia 2) Absylonia, Daughter of Everblight [+28] - Carnivean [19] - Carnivean [19] - Proteus [19] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [0(1)] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Spell Martyr [1] The Forsaken [0(4)] The Forsaken [0(4)] |
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(but then why not build the army out of mk2 starters anyway;)?) Also it's extremely easy to get more variety by very simple and cheap conversions. Making a Brute out of a Savage is really easy, just like making a Sentry or even Tiberion out of a Gladiator.
