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Post by greenjello on Nov 15, 2017 15:08:11 GMT
So the Elder's Winter Magic ability seems pretty limited at the moment. I know the Northkin Shaman, Sorcerer, and Lanyssa Ryssyl can take advantage of it, but beyond that I'm drawing a blank. Are there any other Trollblood models or Minions that can make use of Winter Magic? Otherwise it seems like that very niche third ability that PP likes to give things.
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Post by Trollock on Nov 15, 2017 15:21:46 GMT
Glacier king, Winter troll and ice troll all benefits from that too  oh, and Rök |
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Post by greenjello on Nov 15, 2017 16:23:35 GMT
Thanks! Sounds a lot more useful if I can load it up on a couple of POW12 sprays.
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mazog
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Post by mazog on Nov 15, 2017 16:51:59 GMT
Don't forget Kolgrimma who can cast it three or four times a turn!
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 15, 2017 19:55:07 GMT
Winter trolls are POW 14 with it. Throw in Gunny and you are boosted rat 5 pow 14 cirt stationary sprays! Honestly you could run a PoD gunline with the Northkin elder do some work: GK is Pow 16 Rok is Pow 16 Ice trolls are Pow 15 (18 with rage) Winter trolls become Pow 14 Plus all the misc pow 14 cold sprays you get from casters and solos. Heck even borka 2 could run a silly gunline. Borka: PoD -Runebearer -Mauler -RoK -Mulg -3 Ice trolls Dhunia Knot janissa 2X whelps min stone with northkin elder Runebearer +attuned spirit+ mauler means you can easily throw out 3 rages onto the ice trolls. Who all can counter charge with crit stationary. Each turn you get 3 Boosted P+S18 spears and you can use the feat to buy a turn of shooting before you go all in. And borka still gets 4 fury to play with after casting rage twice!  |
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Post by robbleyourworld on Nov 19, 2017 17:04:15 GMT
I've been playing with Kolgrima in a cold gunline. conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0bj1fmiYjp0h04jqfJfJ6Rfp0ki-Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia !!! Your army contains a pre-release entry. (Kolgrima 1) Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Mulg the Ancient [22] - Troll Axer [10] - Winter Troll [8] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Troll Whelps [4] Dhunian Knot [6] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [3] Not sure if I like the set up yet as I've been making some real bad plays sacrificing my GK or mulg for stupid things but Kolgrima's ability to assassinate a caster within 16" is pretty legit. |
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Nov 19, 2017 18:49:30 GMT
I've been playing with Kolgrima in a cold gunline. conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0bj1fmiYjp0h04jqfJfJ6Rfp0ki-Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia !!! Your army contains a pre-release entry. (Kolgrima 1) Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Mulg the Ancient [22] - Troll Axer [10] - Winter Troll [8] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Troll Whelps [4] Dhunian Knot [6] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [3] Not sure if I like the set up yet as I've been making some real bad plays sacrificing my GK or mulg for stupid things but Kolgrima's ability to assassinate a caster within 16" is pretty legit. It's a combo platter of cold! Do you have support bloat? Is that why it doesn't feel right? |
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Post by robbleyourworld on Nov 19, 2017 21:57:44 GMT
I've been playing with Kolgrima in a cold gunline. conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0bj1fmiYjp0h04jqfJfJ6Rfp0ki-Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Power of Dhunia !!! Your army contains a pre-release entry. (Kolgrima 1) Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch [+28] - Glacier King [35] - Ice Troll [9] - Mulg the Ancient [22] - Troll Axer [10] - Winter Troll [8] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Northkin Shaman [0(4)] Troll Whelps [4] Dhunian Knot [6] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Northkin Elder [3] Not sure if I like the set up yet as I've been making some real bad plays sacrificing my GK or mulg for stupid things but Kolgrima's ability to assassinate a caster within 16" is pretty legit. It's a combo platter of cold! Do you have support bloat? Is that why it doesn't feel right? Its kind of hard to explain I'm not really sure what feels off with the list. When I play it the support always feels like it provides something pretty meaningful so I'm not sure its a problem of support bloat: the knot makes sure things hit and makes kolgrima's crit stationary chance silly high even against def 16 casters, the stone is the whole lists schtick, and the runebearer lets kolgrimma put up walls or spray things down. I'm not set on the lights or having 2 shaman but they've been doing pretty well so far. Oh and I call the list "Sweater Weather" |
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Nov 20, 2017 3:15:24 GMT
I've been playing the following Kolgrima list:
War Room Army
Trollblood - Kolgrima
Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22 (Battlegroup Points Used: 22)
- Troll Axer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6
THEME: The Power of Dhunia
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GENERATED : 11/19/2017 19:12:46
BUILD ID : 2054.17-11-04
And so far I've been pretty happy despite not winning once. Every game I have a massive attrition advantage but have made mistakes about correctly holding scenario or how safe I was. Bad positioning with the Runebearer has also led to me not being able to pull the trigger on otherwise trivial assassinations. Hopefully with more games I can get a handle on her, she seems brutal.
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Post by grabsnikk on Nov 20, 2017 4:16:21 GMT
Borka2 has an Ice Spray as well.
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joedj
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Post by joedj on Nov 20, 2017 13:31:07 GMT
Side note on NK Elder: He doesn't sport a weapon! (at least not on the card I printed yesterday).
No charging for him to save the day, as does my regular Elder on occasion.
On topic, Brun has Frost Hammer, boostable, becomes POW 14 spray, but attacks at effective 'RAT' 4, yuck?
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Post by robbleyourworld on Nov 20, 2017 16:32:07 GMT
Nope no weapon for the elder on War Room either
I think borka2 and brun using their sprays are going to be pretty corner case.
To me the cold damage buff is going to come up with kolgrima's spray or when running a beast cold gunline.
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