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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 13, 2017 1:19:10 GMT
Hey there Menothians(?). Legion player here. I often times find myself looking at other faction's stuff and saying "wow thats cool", or "man thats really good!" then looking at my faction's "version" (if you will) and saying ew. I often times nitpick things too, and talk about how bad stuff is etc. etc. However, I got to thinking... There's a saying that the grass is always greener on the other side. More than likely (not all of the time, but probably a lot), I'm looking at tools other people have, wishing I had access to them, and taking for granted things that my faction has that other people may not have.
So, I've decided to get an outside perspective from other players of different factions. What do y'all, as Menoth players, see in Legion's stable of pieces that make you think "hey I wish I had that"?
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regleant
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Post by regleant on Nov 13, 2017 2:18:20 GMT
When looking at Legion? It's not as differentiated as previous (MK2), but you have endless amounts of Flight, Pathfinder, and Eyeless Sight. You use Fury, which by itself is still a better system - your Warlock is safer, you don't use Warlock resources to fuel your beasts, you can run your beasts hot if you want, and you never 'over-allocate' and waste Fury. You have much higher quality ranged attacks. I would love to have Annyssa and Reindeer Friends in Protectorate and many of your beasts come with some ranged attack. Lastly, most of your Warlocks have somewhat respectable defensive stats.
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Post by greytemplar on Nov 13, 2017 2:30:49 GMT
I wish I had most of Kallus2s kit on a protectorate caster, instead of in a faction where those abilities are squandered. Fundamental problem with PP designing interesting mechanics, but failing to put them in a faction where they would actually work in a positive way.
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Hashmal
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Post by Hashmal on Nov 13, 2017 3:48:04 GMT
That’s easy. I was just proxying some Legion today. I would have to say the faction’s access to non-Warlock movement shenanigans is tops for me. The Seraph, Neraph, and Angeluis all have killer animi that make Legion a very fluid and dynamic force.
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 13, 2017 6:26:28 GMT
Lastly, most of your Warlocks have somewhat respectable defensive stats. I'm surprised to hear that. Most of the time we complain about our defensive stats because the high def can be bypassed really easily and blast damage is scary, whereas the one armored warlock (Thags 2) isn't super high armored in the larger picture of pieces...
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Post by greytemplar on Nov 13, 2017 6:59:20 GMT
Transfers make having a squishy war-noun less of an issue. When you're stuck taking damage on your arm14...
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regleant
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Post by regleant on Nov 13, 2017 7:02:23 GMT
Lastly, most of your Warlocks have somewhat respectable defensive stats. I'm surprised to hear that. Most of the time we complain about our defensive stats because the high def can be bypassed really easily and blast damage is scary, whereas the one armored warlock (Thags 2) isn't super high armored in the larger picture of pieces... Look at Protectorate Caster Defensive Stats, then you'll feel better about your own. We have lot's of 14/14, 14/15, and 14/16. We simply worry about being Directly Hit... and in most cases even take a 9-pt support jack (Devout) just to counter that weakness.
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Post by mydnight on Nov 13, 2017 9:31:58 GMT
Hellmouth is pretty cool.
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Post by maximumhippo on Nov 13, 2017 9:52:21 GMT
I wish I had most of Kallus2s kit on a protectorate caster, instead of in a faction where those abilities are squandered. Fundamental problem with PP designing interesting mechanics, but failing to put them in a faction where they would actually work in a positive way. Man, I swear somewhere in the dev process, Kallus2 and Feora3's Spells and Feats got switched. I look at F3 and think what a cool bit of tech that would be in Legion.
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Post by correlion on Nov 13, 2017 11:37:03 GMT
I wish we can have something like azrael+zuriel in cotd theme(HoJ and EoT in guardian theme for example)
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 13, 2017 15:21:07 GMT
I wish we can have something like azrael+zuriel in cotd theme(HoJ and EoT in guardian theme for example) I can see that, but they’re basically required in the theme. They’re nice to have, sure, but the theme is super limiting and only works with like two warlocks.
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Post by correlion on Nov 13, 2017 15:27:57 GMT
I'm ok with having only fire jacks for guardians theme
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Nov 13, 2017 17:22:32 GMT
*coughcough*Menites*coughcough*
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Post by greytemplar on Nov 13, 2017 18:04:27 GMT
I wish I had most of Kallus2s kit on a protectorate caster, instead of in a faction where those abilities are squandered. Fundamental problem with PP designing interesting mechanics, but failing to put them in a faction where they would actually work in a positive way. Man, I swear somewhere in the dev process, Kallus2 and Feora3's Spells and Feats got switched. I look at F3 and think what a cool bit of tech that would be in Legion. Oh totally. Read the flufftext for his feat. Two word swaps and its a Protectorate feat. It is insanely obvious that Feora3 orignally had at least Kallus's feat.
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Provengreil
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Post by Provengreil on Nov 13, 2017 22:55:03 GMT
Lastly, most of your Warlocks have somewhat respectable defensive stats. I'm surprised to hear that. Most of the time we complain about our defensive stats because the high def can be bypassed really easily and blast damage is scary, whereas the one armored warlock (Thags 2) isn't super high armored in the larger picture of pieces... Harbiner and Rez 2 are immune to KD, but toher than that we don't have high DEF to rely on and still get mostly bad ARM. Speed values would be nice. The pathfinder and eyeless sight mentioned above. That's about everything I'm immediately envious of in legion. Most of my envies are more from trolls, cryx, and cygnar. The sanguine bond units, the Krielstone, the Kings, the favoritism....
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