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Post by leotherat on Nov 14, 2017 20:36:22 GMT
I wish that we had as many 7's and 8's casters every time I play against Legion I always am like, "I wish I had that big of a control area".
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 14, 2017 21:57:01 GMT
I wish that we had as many 7's and 8's casters every time I play against Legion I always am like, "I wish I had that big of a control area". Ironically enough I never use them.
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 14, 2017 22:00:28 GMT
Dodge on Rhyas is good too! Wrong ability, I mean man eater. Got them confused. True. Wait a minute! Somebody wants to ditch Thresher for a free charge on a living warrior model?!? OK, what am I missing here? My initial response to that involves a lot of foul language and the word "stupid" but I figure I had better ask why this would be a good idea. Is there a reason why you would want to reduce its potential damage output (and take out the ability that puts the "scythe" in the "Scythean") just for a single point of fury? I... I... I don't get it. Their logic is this: "If people know how to space out units properly, you'll only get three infantry models in a thresher anyway so why waste all three initials on whats effectively the same number of attacks? This way you save a fury and get to buy even more attacks afterwards." (this line of logic is also coupled with it and the soldier swapping animi so that the soldier has grievous wounds and the scythean has overtake. So, three kills with three initials = 3" of movement + however many buys kill stuff.)
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Post by Blargaliscious on Nov 15, 2017 2:34:47 GMT
Wait a minute! Somebody wants to ditch Thresher for a free charge on a living warrior model?!? OK, what am I missing here? My initial response to that involves a lot of foul language and the word "stupid" but I figure I had better ask why this would be a good idea. Is there a reason why you would want to reduce its potential damage output (and take out the ability that puts the "scythe" in the "Scythean") just for a single point of fury? I... I... I don't get it. Their logic is this: "If people know how to space out units properly, you'll only get three infantry models in a thresher anyway so why waste all three initials on whats effectively the same number of attacks? This way you save a fury and get to buy even more attacks afterwards." (this line of logic is also coupled with it and the soldier swapping animi so that the soldier has grievous wounds and the scythean has overtake. So, three kills with three initials = 3" of movement + however many buys kill stuff.) There are a lot of assumptions built into that line of logic that I would disagree with. I assume that the think tank that came up with that line of logic had never played against any of Khador's 39 different infantry types that go into shield wall whenever there's a funny smell on the wind. (OK, maybe not 39, but several.) I would suggest that instead of messing with the fantastic design that is the Scythean "Mr. Brain Trust" should invest in a Throne of Everblight, since the "properly spaced out units" is the happy hunting ground for the Throne. Man, am I glad that I quickly stopped going into the Legion sub-forum and stayed in Khador's.
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 15, 2017 3:06:16 GMT
Their logic is this: "If people know how to space out units properly, you'll only get three infantry models in a thresher anyway so why waste all three initials on whats effectively the same number of attacks? This way you save a fury and get to buy even more attacks afterwards." (this line of logic is also coupled with it and the soldier swapping animi so that the soldier has grievous wounds and the scythean has overtake. So, three kills with three initials = 3" of movement + however many buys kill stuff.) There are a lot of assumptions built into that line of logic that I would disagree with. I assume that the think tank that came up with that line of logic had never played against any of Khador's 39 different infantry types that go into shield wall whenever there's a funny smell on the wind. (OK, maybe not 39, but several.) I would suggest that instead of messing with the fantastic design that is the Scythean "Mr. Brain Trust" should invest in a Throne of Everblight, since the "properly spaced out units" is the happy hunting ground for the Throne. Man, am I glad that I quickly stopped going into the Legion sub-forum and stayed in Khador's. The thing is, because of chain strike, the Throne is better at dealing with shield walls anyway. Its only a pow lower anyways, so that probably won't make a lot of difference on that front. That said, I still want thresher for applying Grievous wounds on multiple heavies at once.
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Post by Blargaliscious on Nov 15, 2017 14:50:42 GMT
There are a lot of assumptions built into that line of logic that I would disagree with. I assume that the think tank that came up with that line of logic had never played against any of Khador's 39 different infantry types that go into shield wall whenever there's a funny smell on the wind. (OK, maybe not 39, but several.) I would suggest that instead of messing with the fantastic design that is the Scythean "Mr. Brain Trust" should invest in a Throne of Everblight, since the "properly spaced out units" is the happy hunting ground for the Throne. Man, am I glad that I quickly stopped going into the Legion sub-forum and stayed in Khador's. The thing is, because of chain strike, the Throne is better at dealing with shield walls anyway. Its only a pow lower anyways, so that probably won't make a lot of difference on that front. That said, I still want thresher for applying Grievous wounds on multiple heavies at once. Whenever one of those guys in the Legion forum talks up how much better the Throne is against shield walls because of Chain Strike please remind him it is a moot point except in the case of Man-O-War Shocktroopers. Most shield wall troops are ARM 14 naturally and ARM 18 in shield wall - the POW 17 of the Scythean and the POW 16 Chain strike of the Throne are both going to auto-wound. But since shield wall requires higher-DEF infantry to clump up I would much rather have the Murderous Thresher attack to better guarantee hits.
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 15, 2017 18:06:13 GMT
The thing is, because of chain strike, the Throne is better at dealing with shield walls anyway. Its only a pow lower anyways, so that probably won't make a lot of difference on that front. That said, I still want thresher for applying Grievous wounds on multiple heavies at once. Whenever one of those guys in the Legion forum talks up how much better the Throne is against shield walls because of Chain Strike please remind him it is a moot point except in the case of Man-O-War Shocktroopers. Most shield wall troops are ARM 14 naturally and ARM 18 in shield wall - the POW 17 of the Scythean and the POW 16 Chain strike of the Throne are both going to auto-wound. But since shield wall requires higher-DEF infantry to clump up I would much rather have the Murderous Thresher attack to better guarantee hits. Interesting point!
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Post by The Snark Knight on Nov 19, 2017 18:01:22 GMT
Even if we did have this, you know it would still somehow be a RAT 4 trampling melee zeppelin.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Nov 19, 2017 20:35:54 GMT
Even if we did have this, you know it would still somehow be a RAT 4 trampling melee zeppelin. So... the Hindenburg?
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Post by welshhoppo on Nov 19, 2017 20:58:07 GMT
Even if we did have this, you know it would still somehow be a RAT 4 trampling melee zeppelin. So... the Hindenburg? Too soon man. Too soon.
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Post by pyr0maniacal on Nov 19, 2017 20:59:04 GMT
The Hindenburg is the Protectorate's zeppelin.
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Post by Havock on Nov 19, 2017 23:03:19 GMT
"Working as intended."
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Nov 19, 2017 23:34:51 GMT
Even if we did have this, you know it would still somehow be a RAT 4 trampling melee zeppelin. So... the Hindenburg? Indeed. It would actually be a warjack where the Graylord Covenant used leftover Beserker cortexes, and be subject to the risk of explosion. If it was a colossal...it might be worth it.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Nov 19, 2017 23:37:39 GMT
Indeed. It would actually be a warjack where the Graylord Covenant used leftover Beserker cortexes, and be subject to the risk of explosion. If it was a colossal...it might be worth it. Do we really need a colossal that has a 1:6 chance of exploding?
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Post by welshhoppo on Nov 19, 2017 23:41:02 GMT
Indeed. It would actually be a warjack where the Graylord Covenant used leftover Beserker cortexes, and be subject to the risk of explosion. If it was a colossal...it might be worth it. Do we really need a colossal that has a 1:6 chance of exploding? Depends on the size of the explosion. Maybe not if it was a wet fart, maybe yes if it was the size of a small African country.
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