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mazog
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Cursed fate musing Nov 3, 2017 18:17:07 GMT via mobile

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Post by mazog on Nov 3, 2017 18:17:07 GMT

I'm pondering the best way to take advantage of it again, since Kolgrimma was released. We all know scattergunners and highwaymen can take great advantage, but I'm trying to figure out if I think tramples can, too. The RAW don't say the words 'directly hit' but it is a melee attack, so it seems likely. Does somebody that tramples more often than me know if that would work? It seems like a potentially good answer to iron fangs in any theme.

Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

ravenfire Junior Strategist Me Mulg me SMASSSSSHHHH Posts: 244	Cursed fate musing Nov 3, 2017 19:08:40 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ravenfire on Nov 3, 2017 19:08:40 GMT Or maybe bushwackers and either do 10 damage to one warbeast or kill 10 single wound dudes Highwaymen are also great: possible 20 kills with a ten men unit or 20 damage to a warbeast. The options are plenty

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Cursed fate musing Nov 3, 2017 19:36:42 GMT

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Nov 3, 2017 19:08:40 GMT ravenfire said:

Or maybe bushwackers and either do 10 damage to one warbeast or kill 10 single wound dudes

Highwaymen are also great: possible 20 kills with a ten men unit or 20 damage to a warbeast.

The options are plenty

It's the first caster that I can see that actually might make Bushwackers worth taking. However, Kriel Company does not seem like the best theme for her, so I'm still not going to buy them.

Last Edit: Nov 3, 2017 19:37:49 GMT by albertairish

mazog Junior Strategist Walking and talking Posts: 748	Cursed fate musing Nov 3, 2017 20:54:32 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mazog on Nov 3, 2017 20:54:32 GMT Yup, and scattergunners murder swaths, but I'm looking for things outside Kriel company.
	Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

albertairish Junior Strategist Posts: 211	Cursed fate musing Nov 3, 2017 21:54:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by albertairish on Nov 3, 2017 21:54:15 GMT There's always a Bomber's AoEs which can wreck any single-wound Shield Guard unit that gets Cursed.

ravenfire Junior Strategist Me Mulg me SMASSSSSHHHH Posts: 244	Cursed fate musing Nov 3, 2017 22:30:04 GMT bohemianchops likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ravenfire on Nov 3, 2017 22:30:04 GMT you can take one minion/mercenary unit. lets say nys hunters and go for a pod list Or raiders with a fell caller and charge into single wound infantry and try to get quick work off

mazog
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Cursed fate musing Nov 4, 2017 0:01:07 GMT via mobile

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Nov 3, 2017 22:30:04 GMT ravenfire said:

you can take one minion/mercenary unit. lets say nys hunters and go for a pod list

Or raiders with a fell caller and charge into single wound infantry and try to get quick work off

That reminds me, Farrow brigands (with warlord, natch) are probably another good choice. You could combine with prey on a dodgy target, or let them have another useful target to attack even if they can't get at the prey.

Not quite a competitive player, yet, mostly because I don't have time to go to tournaments.

gdnerd Junior Strategist Posts: 656	Cursed fate musing Nov 4, 2017 0:46:09 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by gdnerd on Nov 4, 2017 0:46:09 GMT Nov 3, 2017 21:54:15 GMT albertairish said: There's always a Bomber's AoEs which can wreck any single-wound Shield Guard unit that gets Cursed. Blast hits are not direct hits unfortunately.

Perry89
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Cursed fate musing Nov 8, 2017 2:22:24 GMT via mobile

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Nov 4, 2017 0:46:09 GMT gdnerd said:

Nov 3, 2017 21:54:15 GMT albertairish said:

There's always a Bomber's AoEs which can wreck any single-wound Shield Guard unit that gets Cursed.

Blast hits are not direct hits unfortunately.

You just destroyed my hopes and dreams.

mydnight Junior Strategist Posts: 795	Cursed fate musing Nov 8, 2017 5:59:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mydnight on Nov 8, 2017 5:59:10 GMT Just like tanith and double reavers. Kol + double highwaymen and a mountain king?
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Cursed fate musing Nov 8, 2017 6:49:24 GMT

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Nov 8, 2017 5:59:10 GMT mydnight said:

Just like tanith and double reavers. Kol + double highwaymen and a mountain king?

The problem there is that there is no way that 20 highwaymen will actually get to shoot at the same target. Their range is simply too short

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mydnight Junior Strategist Posts: 795	Cursed fate musing Nov 8, 2017 22:30:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mydnight on Nov 8, 2017 22:30:14 GMT Well, with tactician in kriel company, I guess highwaymen+bushwackers will work but that reduces the output considerably. There's always sluggers ...

bohemianchops
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Cursed fate musing Nov 9, 2017 17:02:33 GMT via mobile

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Nov 3, 2017 22:30:04 GMT ravenfire said:

you can take one minion/mercenary unit. lets say nys hunters and go for a pod list

Or raiders with a fell caller and charge into single wound infantry and try to get quick work off

When I first saw us getting Affliction I immediately grabbed my two units of Highwaymen and hugged them. Soon they would see a table. Alas I ultimately decided on the Nyss in PoD as well.

What I learned playing Tanith is 20 shots is generally overkill on a single unit. I would get just as much work out of three sprays (Sentry Stone) as a unit of Reeves. The real benefit the Reeves brought was CRA twice. Note: I did live the dream once of Afflictioning down a caster with 20 shots. It was glorious and almost failed.

So, high volume of attacks are sweet. You feel super cool with that interaction. But, at the end of the day it is unneeded and eats up your clock considerably. That CRA could have been a melee beast that would one round whatever you were shooting anyway.

Kolgrima gets so much from having Mulgnode. Her spray and the Shaman sprays should be enough to get good usage out of CF. Cold Stone makes those sprays POW 14 as well, which can be deadly.

Here is what list I’m looking at for her:

War Room Army

Trollblood - Kolgrima Minion

Theme: The Power of Dhunia
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22 (Battlegroup Points Used: 22)
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 14
- Troll Axer - PC: 10

Northkin Shaman - PC: 0
Northkin Shaman - PC: 4
Swamp Gobber Chef - PC: 1

Cylena Raefyll & Nyss Hunters - Cylena & 9 Grunts: 19
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6

THEME: The Power of Dhunia
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Here is a bonus list I think looks silly:

War Room Army

Trollblood - Kolgrima Ice Ice Baby

Theme: The Power of Dhunia
3 / 3 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army

Kolgrima Stonetruth, Winter Witch - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22 (Battlegroup Points Used: 22)
- Ice Troll - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Ice Troll - PC: 9
- Ice Troll - PC: 9
- Ice Troll - PC: 9
- Ice Troll - PC: 9
- Ice Troll - PC: 9

Janissa Stonetide - PC: 4
Northkin Shaman - PC: 0
Northkin Shaman - PC: 0
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 4

Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Dhunian Knot - Leader & 2 Grunts: 6

THEME: The Power of Dhunia
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Last Edit: Nov 9, 2017 17:06:37 GMT by bohemianchops

ravenfire
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Cursed fate musing Nov 9, 2017 17:23:00 GMT via mobile

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Post by ravenfire on Nov 9, 2017 17:23:00 GMT

Do you really need puppet master?? You have a def debuf in cf

And I do not think you need a max stone either.

That could get you 9 points to optimize your list.

And if you take out the shaman and chef you get an additional 5 points and can get a second ebdt and have a third free solo and get the shaman back for free

Last Edit: Nov 9, 2017 17:24:50 GMT by ravenfire

bohemianchops
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Cursed fate musing Nov 9, 2017 17:47:25 GMT via mobile

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Post by bohemianchops on Nov 9, 2017 17:47:25 GMT

Nov 9, 2017 17:23:00 GMT ravenfire said:

Do you really need puppet master?? You have a def debuf in cf

And I do not think you need a max stone either.

That could get you 9 points to optimize your list.

And if you take out the shaman and chef you get an additional 5 points and can get a second ebdt and have a third free solo and get the shaman back for free

The Knot is a personal preference. Rerolling a flubbed damage roll is also useful. My dice have been less than stellar lately.

I like the extra EBDT, smart addition that keeps the second Shaman. I would say that change is probably the correct one to make.

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Post by ravenfire on Nov 3, 2017 22:30:04 GMT

Post by mazog on Nov 4, 2017 0:01:07 GMT

Post by gdnerd on Nov 4, 2017 0:46:09 GMT

Post by Perry89 on Nov 8, 2017 2:22:24 GMT

Post by mydnight on Nov 8, 2017 5:59:10 GMT

Post by Trollock on Nov 8, 2017 6:49:24 GMT

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