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Post by kuririnad on Nov 1, 2017 1:44:06 GMT
How is no one talking about Spiny Growth going down to cost 1 in the recent CID? That seems pretty fun in a call of the wild list. Especially on Kromac1...
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 1, 2017 6:49:04 GMT
It only affects one model in our stable right now. It’s stoll a cool change. In most call of the Wild lists with Kromac 1 or 2 it means ghetorix will always be Arm 19 base.
It just further makes Awakeked spirit on Kromac 2 pointless though. It’s only really usefull on the rage monkey and Pureblood now. Me thinks it should be replaced with an infantry support spell ;P
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Post by streetpizza on Nov 1, 2017 10:15:44 GMT
It only affects one model in our stable right now. It’s stoll a cool change. In most call of the Wild lists with Kromac 1 or 2 it means ghetorix will always be Arm 19 base. It just further makes Awakeked spirit on Kromac 2 pointless though. It’s only really usefull on the rage monkey and Pureblood now. Me thinks it should be replaced with an infantry support spell ;P My only regret is that I have but one like to give
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Post by Forsaken on Nov 2, 2017 0:52:58 GMT
It only affects one model in our stable right now. It’s stoll a cool change. In most call of the Wild lists with Kromac 1 or 2 it means ghetorix will always be Arm 19 base. It just further makes Awakeked spirit on Kromac 2 pointless though. It’s only really usefull on the rage monkey and Pureblood now. Me thinks it should be replaced with an infantry support spell ;P I like that it opens up using awakened spirit in other themes for someone other then Ghetorix. Free sprint means an extra fury to attack with.
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 2, 2017 1:02:39 GMT
It only affects one model in our stable right now. It’s stoll a cool change. In most call of the Wild lists with Kromac 1 or 2 it means ghetorix will always be Arm 19 base. It just further makes Awakeked spirit on Kromac 2 pointless though. It’s only really usefull on the rage monkey and Pureblood now. Me thinks it should be replaced with an infantry support spell ;P I like that it opens up using awakened spirit in other themes for someone other then Ghetorix. Free sprint means an extra fury to attack with. What other theme are you running Kromac 2 in?...Devourerers host?
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Post by Forsaken on Nov 2, 2017 5:29:06 GMT
I use Secret Masters.................
Kidding. That theme is crap! Yeah, Devourer's Host. During last CID Kromac used the boilmaster and theme for corpse candy (along with other tharn), stalker had awakened spirit to maximize kills and still sprint and Ghetorix got upkept retaliatory strike and kept up his cheap animus himself so that anything daring to try and hit him better be sure. Spiny growth and Ghetorix axe to the face will make even Khador jacks do the math twice. Also, Kromac2 full of corpses can usually do work and still find that 1 fury for a Spiny of his own.
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Post by jisidro on Nov 2, 2017 11:27:42 GMT
Awakened spirit is really good for Wraithbane or Feral, don't see it as a dead spell at all.
He has carnage to support infantry tbh, he (and by he I mean me) wants a feat that supports infantry as well.
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 2, 2017 13:57:38 GMT
I use Secret Masters................. Kidding. That theme is crap! Yeah, Devourer's Host. During last CID Kromac used the boilmaster and theme for corpse candy (along with other tharn), stalker had awakened spirit to maximize kills and still sprint and Ghetorix got upkept retaliatory strike and kept up his cheap animus himself so that anything daring to try and hit him better be sure. Spiny growth and Ghetorix axe to the face will make even Khador jacks do the math twice. Also, Kromac2 full of corpses can usually do work and still find that 1 fury for a Spiny of his own. I guess I just see him at his best with a big BG. like jisidro said, if his feat was +2 strength and Arm for dudes it would be way better. Pow 15 arm 17 tharn ravagers would be legit all at mat 10 with carnage. Sure Kromac 2 with corpses is awesome...my issue is he gets out threatened by just about everything else out there. Ghetorix with no pathfinder also will take an alpha in a lot of match ups if you don't play super cagey with terrain and that's not even a guarantee nowadays. In almost eveyr match up I play with him I struggle to deliver the army. (granted I play him in call) And he really does not hit very hard outside of feat turn....Kaya 3 just does him...better. Start comparing him to other front line casters and you just start to get sad faced. I love Kromac 2. I just think he is in an awkward place right now and there are other casters that do him better. jisidro Awakened spirit is pretty great for primal (which I rarely cast anymore) and Wraithbane (which is situation ally useful but still a solid animus) I would trade Retaliatory strike or that for a infantry buff spell or generic damage buff for any model...
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Post by jisidro on Nov 2, 2017 15:07:48 GMT
Well K2 to me has the same issue as a few other casters... A large base and nothing to show for it...
Terminus, Thagrosh, Kromac have nice stats and hit hard and have good ARM values but nothing extraordinary. They are not cavalry, they are don't have reposition... For them it's a straight deisadvantage to be in a large base instead of a small/médium one.
I'd like them to have something to show for their increased vulnerability.
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Post by mindwormjim on Nov 4, 2017 15:17:09 GMT
I was always slightly disappointed that Kromac2 didn't have something like Battle Lust. He's not a bad caster at all, but Circle's been dreaming of a solid infantry damage buff for a long time ...
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Post by sirk on Nov 5, 2017 13:10:39 GMT
Well, Kromac "has" sprint, that's better than reposition but a part from that it's true than, a part from carnage, his spell list is really lacking. Having lost one spell from mkii, having vengeful that's kinda meh and having now a reduced effect awakened spirit leaves him with quite few options. Something else instead of vengeful would be very welcome, even something defensive like Primal Howl would be interesting for him.
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 5, 2017 16:20:22 GMT
I was always slightly disappointed that Kromac2 didn't have something like Battle Lust. He's not a bad caster at all, but Circle's been dreaming of a solid infantry damage buff for a long time ... Battle lust may be but too good. He can easily make 2 units of ravagers weaponmasters every turn and that could get silly.
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Post by mindwormjim on Nov 5, 2017 19:21:25 GMT
Battle lust may be but too good. He can easily make 2 units of ravagers weaponmasters every turn and that could get silly. Can't be any sillier than Irusk casting Battle Lust on two units of Iron Fang Pikemen.
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Post by macdaddy on Nov 5, 2017 21:28:50 GMT
Battle lust may be but too good. He can easily make 2 units of ravagers weaponmasters every turn and that could get silly. Can't be any sillier than Irusk casting Battle Lust on two units of Iron Fang Pikemen. That’s a good point
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Post by jisidro on Nov 6, 2017 9:49:49 GMT
The comparision is disheartening...
Both are 21pt units, Both are POW 13, both threat 11"... Then everything changes and it's likely to go in favor of the IFP than the Ravagers... If nothing else it's 11 attacks vs 7....
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