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Post by gordaunikus1 on Oct 24, 2017 16:16:36 GMT
I have yet to use lord of the feast in mk3 and want to make sure I have his rules down before I do.
- dual attack says I can make the ranged attack, teleport, then thresher? Is that right?
- can I charge, make initial to get heart token, bird attack, teleport, buy Melee stacks?
- can I port w stones, then activate lord, then bird and so on?
- what are common mistake with his rules?
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Post by jisidro on Oct 24, 2017 16:40:32 GMT
I have yet to use lord of the feast in mk3 and want to make sure I have his rules down before I do. - dual attack says I can make the ranged attack, teleport, then thresher? Is that right? Nope, you can make the ranged attack and then your initial melee attack. You can't use Threser because it is a special attack demands you lose all your initials (melee and ranged). - can I charge, make initial to get heart token, bird attack, teleport, buy Melee stacks? Yes. Keep in mind you must do your initials before buying extra attacks, so you can't charge do a bunch of melee attacks, bird and buy more attacks. - can I port w stones, then activate lord, then bird and so on? yup. - what are common mistake with his rules? Thinking they are worth reading? OT: Not realizing threasher costs both initials and boosting the bird attack. Heart taker only allows boosts on melee attacks.... whatever mistakes I made? |
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Post by gordaunikus1 on Oct 24, 2017 16:59:23 GMT
Great catch. I mistook his thresher SPECIAL attack for a POWER attack in the dual attack rule. Lol why would I read the tactical tip on the card when I could just ask the forums (@will_pagani)?
Poor bloodpack. Boosting ranged attack or damage rolls would be cool.
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 24, 2017 17:02:11 GMT
Lol poor bloodpack. Boosting ranged attack or damage rolls would be cool. You can get them cheap on ebay though. I am thinking of running a double blood pack list just for the lol's. Lord of the feast is hot garbage.... |
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Post by gordaunikus1 on Oct 24, 2017 17:03:11 GMT
No reason to come in w he is hot garbage. He is a free solo w stealth arm 17 and 8 boxes in a list that needs help w flags and contesting.
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Post by oncomingstorm on Oct 24, 2017 19:46:15 GMT
No reason to come in w he is hot garbage. He is a free solo w stealth arm 17 and 8 boxes in a list that needs help w flags and contesting. Every time I build a call of the wild list, I find myself having to make the following decision:
- Free LoTF - Free second unit of shifting stones - no 4th free solo, take a unit/merc solo/etc.
LOTF almost never makes it into my lists. And when you're not a competitive choice at free, you're not a competitive choice, period. Yes, he can cap a flag, but a gremlin swarm does it better (and for most casters, if you have 4 free solos, you're not taking a gremlin swarm.) He doesn't threaten beasts. He doesn't threaten enough infantry. He doesn't threaten casters if your opponent is awake enough to NOT let you teleport a fully loaded LOTF into their back arc.
The only list where he regularly makes the cut is my Kromac CoTW list, and that's because:
a) the list is already down a free solo because I take Wrong Eye and Snapjaw...so I buy my shifting stones and take LoTF for free. b) the list will include the boil master and spirit cauldron when they come out, and taking LoTF gives it someone to load up on turn one. c) carnage means you don't necessarily need the back strike to threat an assassination.
That is a buttload of synergy that is needed to just get him to squeak into a list for free.
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Post by jisidro on Oct 25, 2017 15:04:51 GMT
No reason to come in w he is hot garbage. He is a free solo w stealth arm 17 and 8 boxes in a list that needs help w flags and contesting.
True but he is a SPD 5 solo... So not even great at run + score or run + contest... he has stealth which is surprisingly scarce in circle solos.
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Post by Nahualli on Oct 25, 2017 15:33:51 GMT
On one of my last games, I played on Recon 2. I flanked the left zone (the one with the far flag) with Lord of the Feast. My plan with him was to buy me 2 CPs differential by teleporting to the solo that was on that flag. Even if he dies the next turn, he did a better job than my other free solo options on CotW (wilder and blackclad). This paired with a Gremlin Swarm gives me a lot of flexibility on contesting and scoring. I personally don't see the point on having 2 units of stones and 2 blackclads when I can achieve a scoring advantage without sacrificing a Scarsfell for just that.
On that game, dice happened and I failed to hit a battleengine with def 10..... But if I had the hit, I kill the opponents Gremlin Swarm and contest both flag and zone, forcing my opponent to waste activations on him rather than my whole battlegroup, which already secured the right zone for myself, and ensuring 2 CPs at the end of my turn.
I see a lot of players not agreeing with me here and on the FB group, and I am not saying that I am right, but would like you all to try it and make your own conclusions. You can be surprised on its utility.
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 25, 2017 18:47:09 GMT
No reason to come in w he is hot garbage. He is a free solo w stealth arm 17 and 8 boxes in a list that needs help w flags and contesting. You are right. I should not have started off the thread with that statement and no supporting evidence. My issue with him lies in the following: 1: 1” reach and (*)action thresher really kicked him in the balls for his intended roll which is infantry mulching 2: He competes with solos that do his job better: the night witch and the white mane can lawnmow through infantry and also buff units around them for a cheaper cost. 3: He has a deceptive statline. He seems durable but the average Boosted Pow 12 Gun does half his boxes in damage. Now that the most speaker can give eyeless sight to friendlies (if that stays) he loses lots of ground defensively since he is so expensive. 4: Since he doesn’t kill Infantry well enough let’s take him from the angle of solo hunting. Mat 8 P+S 13 is really good. The issue is the unboostable Rat 7 raven. Puppet master makes this more reliable but it is one very pivotal shot that misses the average solo half the time. Rat 7 is good, but the whole package around it is not. If he could boost ranged attacks with corpses this could be mitigated. I’m not saying he is unusable. I just think for his cost he has an inconsistent output of damage. |
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Post by gordaunikus1 on Oct 26, 2017 15:13:00 GMT
Game w kromac 1 and lotf yesterday. Did exactly what I would expect. For a free solo, he killed 2 boomhowlers then teleported into a heavy. My other free solo the blackclad killed a couple howlers while stalker and ghettorex cleaned up all but 2.
This means there wasn’t enough left on that side of the table to kill lotf, heavy has to trample to get to stalker. Stalker lives.
At least w kromac 1, I don’t necesarily think that’s a corner Case situation. It may however, be being too aggressive and throwing away the 6 point solo. Thoughts?
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Post by Nahualli on Oct 26, 2017 15:17:50 GMT
At least w kromac 1, I don’t necesarily think that’s a corner Case situation. It may however, be being too aggressive and throwing away the 6 point solo. Thoughts? I don't think so, that's how I am using him. I see it as a time investment, it buys me CP difference, and its not a model that is trivial to remove. |
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