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Adepticon lists and why Mar 7, 2017 4:59:27 GMT

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Post by danith00 on Mar 7, 2017 4:59:27 GMT

So, I'll be going to Adepticon in a few weeks. Right now these are the lists I'll be bringing. There may be some slight changes but the guts of the list won't be changing. My Sev2 list has changed quite a bit, and it may end up changing back to the way it way prior to Eye of Truth's release. But, I enjoy Sev2 Ctrl+Alt Deleting Stormlances with Eye.

Anyways, I'm gonna post both lists. Make a few notes on why these are my lists. I will eventually post some batreps to this thread during Iron Arena and the tournaments I've entered.

First list....

Feora, the Conquering Flame - WJ: +27

- Hierophant - PC: 3

- Sanctifier - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14)

- Sanctifier - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)

Initiate Tristan Durant - PC: 4

- Eye of Truth - PC: 20

Nicia, Tear of Vengeance - PC: 5

The Covenant of Menoth - PC: 4

Vassal of Menoth - PC: 3

Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord - PC: 4

Wrack - PC: 1

Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1

Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4

Holy Zealots - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13

- Monolith Bearer - PC: 3

Flameguard Cleansers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9

This list has undergone a few changes but overall this list has been competing extremely well. The Sanctifers allow Feora her full focus stat to do a lot of work herself which really helps on the attrition side of things. We all know Feora has a monsterous personally threat of 16in. But, she also packs a punch between choir, redline, and incite she has a +6 dmg swing which puts the Sanctifer up to a whopping pow 22. They will delete almost anything they get close to.

The Zealots are there for a few reasons. They are extremely cheap bodies, with an extremely powerful recursion mini feat. They are there to mainly power the Sanctifers but they also crack armor extremely well with Rat 6 Pow 16 bombs under incite.

Tristan and Eye of Truth are like two peas in a pod. They are my anchor. Between ocular vision and fortify he is an extremely hard piece to remove.

This list will be my armor drop. It shouldn't have many problems breaking Khador's back.

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Hierarch Severius - WJ: +26

- Hierophant - PC: 3

- Blessing of Vengeance - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)

- Reckoner - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)

- Reckoner - PC: 16

Initiate Tristan Durant - PC: 4

- Eye of Truth - PC: 20

Allegiant of the Order of the Fist - PC: 3

Allegiant of the Order of the Fist - PC: 3

Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1

Wrack - PC: 1

Wrack - PC: 1

Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4

Visgoth Juviah Rhoven & Honor Guard - Rhoven, Gius & Cassian: 9

Temple Flameguard - Leader & 5 Grunts: 7

So, Sev2. What can I say about Sev2. He's arguably our best caster in a number of match ups. He's been my favorite caster since I started playing Warmachine during Mk2.

This list will be my ALL drop. It'll be dropped into almost everything. I've played it into quite a few different Cygnar match ups with Max, double max, max-min stormlances. And I can usually wipe a good chunk of them out between feat and A2A under Eye of Truth's aura. I'm confident enough in this list to drop it into anything.

Double Reckoner. It's the norm for Sev2. Awareness. Guns bang bang.

Tristan and Eye of Truth... You kind of notice how I love this guy. Same reason... Anchor.

Punch monks are my objective pieces. They never die. They are the best model in PoM. They make life impossible for my opponent.

Temple Flameguard is probably where most people are like wtf? Well, I need to have some jam. And I need to keep my reckoners from being jammed. And nothing does that better than def 15 immune to magic cheap dudes. They have kept back so many more points they I find they are needed the most in the list.

Please discuss. As I play more games leading up to Adepticon. I'll probably post the batreps. But, I'll answer anything I need to as we go.

I have witnessed heresy among Menoth's Chosen. I, The White Knight will ride and smite all who spews forth vile vomit about the Faithful.

charlzheimer
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Adepticon lists and why Mar 7, 2017 12:09:03 GMT

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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 7, 2017 12:09:03 GMT

while i do value the powerhouse that is eye of truth with the upkeep of tristan on it.

i do not think its wise.

the eot will generally want to start its turn in 8" of tristan. wich is a huuuge leash.

in addition your paying 23 points for a module that can fail once tristan croacks.

its a very risky maneuver.

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Adepticon lists and why Mar 7, 2017 14:15:11 GMT via mobile

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Post by MessOfMinions on Mar 7, 2017 14:15:11 GMT

I agree here, if you want an independent module for your opponent to beat on why not just bring the avatar? Especially with feora3, who really can't afford to worry about walking over to eye of truth to turn it back on once Tristan dies. I would also advise perhaps running hand of judgement too if you plan on skewing fire damage as incite, fervor, and fuel for the flames is pretty dumb on zealots who can throw at hand and not damage him. Also, his bond makes him super focus efficient and the feat turn allows him to be more so, what with free charges after a solo touches an enemy. As for sevy2, I feel ok about eye of truth in there, but feel he would be better in creators might with Tristan running two redeemers instead.

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danith00
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Adepticon lists and why Mar 7, 2017 15:52:08 GMT via mobile

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Post by danith00 on Mar 7, 2017 15:52:08 GMT

I think everyone worries too much about Tristan or juniors for that matter. Of all my games I've played with Tristan + Eye, Tristan has only died twice. And it was late in the game after eye has died.

Replacing that package with The Avatar has been a thought many times. But The Avatar is nowhere near as tanky. And that's what Feora3 needs. An anchor.

As far as, the same package in Sev2. It's still up in the air. Gonna get a few more games in before I change anything.

I have witnessed heresy among Menoth's Chosen. I, The White Knight will ride and smite all who spews forth vile vomit about the Faithful.

rems Baby's First Wargame Posts: 9	Adepticon lists and why Mar 7, 2017 16:14:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rems on Mar 7, 2017 16:14:37 GMT I think EoT with Tristan is a great idea, dangerous but great! Imma try it asap!

danith00 Read Page 5 Posts: 24	Adepticon lists and why Mar 7, 2017 18:52:49 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by danith00 on Mar 7, 2017 18:52:49 GMT Mar 7, 2017 16:14:37 GMT rems said: I think EoT with Tristan is a great idea, dangerous but great! Imma try it asap! Try it. It's a great package.
	I have witnessed heresy among Menoth's Chosen. I, The White Knight will ride and smite all who spews forth vile vomit about the Faithful.

rems Baby's First Wargame Posts: 9	Adepticon lists and why Mar 26, 2017 3:49:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rems on Mar 26, 2017 3:49:37 GMT We want feed backs ! how did it go ?

marijnh Boots on the Ground Posts: 85	Adepticon lists and why Mar 26, 2017 9:10:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by marijnh on Mar 26, 2017 9:10:16 GMT Yes, please let us know how it went!

danith00
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Adepticon lists and why Mar 28, 2017 1:51:02 GMT

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Post by danith00 on Mar 28, 2017 1:51:02 GMT

Working on a write up. Had to go straight to work once I got back from Adepticon. I'm gonna go ahead and write a quick summary and go into more details over the new few days.

If anyone has an opportunity to go to Adepticon, I highly recommend it. It's an absolute blast. Also... I got to play against the one and only Doug Hamilton. It was pretty amazing.

So, I arrived on Thursday. Got the new Deliverer Arms Master some new measuring sticks and then went and played my first Iron Arena game to get some practice in. Played so much Feora3 its not funny.

I'm just going to point out... Sanctifer's + Zealots + Feora3 is amazing. I literally have Feora3 on one side of the table killing everything while my sanctifers power themselves off of the zealots. Out of all my games in the Iron Arena plus master's Tristan w/ EoT died once. And that was because I moved Tristan (No reason to move him) less than 8ins away. So, Anyone who thinks its a risk... please try it out. It works.

My first Master's game was against Khador. His lists were Irusk2 and Sorcha1. The Irusk2 had many rockets. Was super terrified of that list, but he dropped Sorcha1. I dropped Sev2.

The Scenero nor terrain never mattered except for a forest in the middle of the field. It was a rather large piece. Top of 2, I moved Blessing within 10 of Sorcha (who was behind the forest with her buffs up). I hit her with 2 hex blasts fully boosted and blessed and took her down to 3 hp. From that point on the game was mine. He had to feat defensively just to stay alive and to try and kill Blessing. I eventually was able to assassinate.

I have witnessed heresy among Menoth's Chosen. I, The White Knight will ride and smite all who spews forth vile vomit about the Faithful.

Adepticon lists and why

Post by danith00 on Mar 7, 2017 4:59:27 GMT

Post by charlzheimer on Mar 7, 2017 12:09:03 GMT

Post by MessOfMinions on Mar 7, 2017 14:15:11 GMT

Post by danith00 on Mar 7, 2017 15:52:08 GMT

Post by rems on Mar 7, 2017 16:14:37 GMT

Post by danith00 on Mar 7, 2017 18:52:49 GMT

Post by rems on Mar 26, 2017 3:49:37 GMT

Post by marijnh on Mar 26, 2017 9:10:16 GMT

Post by danith00 on Mar 28, 2017 1:51:02 GMT