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Post by djgibraltar on Oct 7, 2017 18:54:56 GMT
Just wanted to have a fun discussion of possible versions of HR character jack. i think he would benefit greatly from some individual love that expand his game.
I would think Sanctifier would be the base chassis. It being an overgrown reclaimer.
Add this
Bond: can return 1 grunt that can act for 1 focus once per turn. or maybe per focus if not too strong. This boosts both reclaimers recursion game.
+1 Mat +2 P+S on his Mace Ghostly to models within 10 inches including himself. Apparition
18-20pts
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Post by chillychinaman on Oct 8, 2017 5:02:15 GMT
Lemme clarify the Bond: The Jack can spend revive grunts for 1 focus? You do know that even Testament requires 2 for Raise the Dead. This isn't likely to happen.
Something more reasonable would be that friendly faction models that die within X" of the jack can send their soul tokens to HR.
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Post by bskhacker on Oct 8, 2017 16:11:59 GMT
Something more reasonable would be that friendly faction models that die within X" of the jack can send their soul tokens to HR. I like giving it an ability that shares or helps with soul collecting. Maybe giving it soul storm as well?
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Post by greytemplar on Oct 9, 2017 4:22:17 GMT
I think a Sanctifier with the following,
Mat7(maybe 8). Melee weapon gains +1 pow over the standard Sanctifier.
Bond[High Reclaimer/Testament of Menoth]: During the control phase and while it is within it's bonded warcaster's control area, you may spend any number of this model's soul tokens to give it's controlling warcaster 1 soul token per soul token spent. During the control phase and while it is within it's bonded warcaster's control area, it's controlling warcaster may spend any number of soul tokens to give this model 1 soul token per soul token spent.
Consecrated Ground: Enemy models may not gain soul tokens from friendly faction models destroyed within 5" of this model. When friendly faction models within 5" would be removed from play, they are considered destroyed instead.
17-18 points.
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Post by Provengreil on Oct 9, 2017 23:51:12 GMT
I think a Sanctifier with the following, Mat7(maybe 8). Melee weapon gains +1 pow over the standard Sanctifier. Bond[High Reclaimer/Testament of Menoth]: During the control phase and while it is within it's bonded warcaster's control area, you may spend any number of this model's soul tokens to give it's controlling warcaster 1 soul token per soul token spent. During the control phase and while it is within it's bonded warcaster's control area, it's controlling warcaster may spend any number of soul tokens to give this model 1 soul token per soul token spent. Consecrated Ground: Enemy models may not gain soul tokens from friendly faction models destroyed within 5" of this model. When friendly faction models within 5" would be removed from play, they are considered destroyed instead. 17-18 points. MAT 7 would be fine IMO, the Silent Bobs don't need massive MATs on top of their kits. Beyond that though, I don't see all that much improvement here over just taking a reckoner anyway. That bond is mostly already covered by not having a sanctifier in the first place and giving some focus away, and consecrated ground is a series of weird interactions waiting to happen. I would suggest, instead, the following suite of abilities: -Sacrificial Pawn [FF warrior] -Soul Fueled: This model may make charge attacks and power attacks by spending a soul token instead of a focus point -Ashes of Urcaen: 4-inch burning ash template constantly centered on this model -Bond: (while bonded to HR/Testament in control blah blah) if a FF model is removed from play by an enemy model's attack within 8 inches, you may place a Heresy token on that enemy model/unit. FF Models declaring a charge against models marked with a Heresy token gain 2" of movement and pathfinder. FF Models declaring an attack against models marked with a Heresy token and an additional die on attack and damage rolls. only one model/unit may be marked in this way at one time. Declaring a new Heresy target removes a previous one. yeah it's probably busted, but it allows the Bobs game into RFP by asking if the enemy really wants to try it. Testament in particular isn't kept down by RFP so much as his complete lack of game when it's present. This might allow a plan B.
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