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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Sept 29, 2017 22:08:50 GMT
Changes to Heavy Metal are not suprising, still not gonna take Long gunners or precursors though
Gravediggers is fine
Ragman in Storm Division, yes please
NO SQUIRE IN SONS OF THE TEMPEST!!!!! WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME PP!!!!!
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Post by spikevash13 on Sept 29, 2017 22:47:47 GMT
supposedly squires are in sons that was a mixup of the pre post cid version (lol pre post cid)
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Post by mydnight on Sept 29, 2017 22:50:02 GMT
No warjacks without ranged weapons in SotT means no Kraye.
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Post by LemmingStampede on Sept 29, 2017 22:58:35 GMT
Per Pagani on the Cygnar FB page, SotT is supposed to allow both Squire and jacks without ranged weapons. There was a mix up and they are fixing it.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Sept 29, 2017 23:17:59 GMT
Storm Division:
Maddox 30*
-Ironclad 12
-Stormclad 18
-Squire 0
Junior 0
-Firefly 8
Stormblades 10
-CA 5
-WA 6
Storm Lances 20
Devil Dogs 18
-Murdoch 4
Rhupert 4
Finally. Made this list in the long-ago days before themes. Now, I can use the Dogs. It's not even that good of a lost. But being able to use it is good.
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Post by Aegis on Sept 30, 2017 0:09:32 GMT
Per Pagani on the Cygnar FB page, SotT is supposed to allow both Squire and jacks without ranged weapons. There was a mix up and they are fixing it. At least... Still, I would have liked to see the last benefit changed. It's useful only for Caine1 and there were some good suggestions around. - The Heavy Metal nerf doesn't change much honestly (the 4th solo was often quite useless in most cases), but I don't like how they managed it. Heavy Metal is for sure our best theme atm, but it's not that strong compared to other jacks/beast themes on the benefits side. I think that after the Lances and Haley2 nerf, it wasn't necessary to tone down HM (again, I don't think it's a big deal, but the time is off. If PP had to nerf HM, should have done it months ago when it was clearly dominating, not now when almost everyone has a great BG theme). I also don't like that they have putted Precursors in HM. They don't fit, and they would be played only with Constance anyway, that is not a jack caster at all. They would have made much more sense in Storm Division, since in the fluff there is often a small company of Precursors with the Stormknight to do the holy duties and to bury corpses. - I also don't like how they did put Acosta out of the list of allowed models in Storm Division. It was pointed out when they talked about it in CID, but they ignored it and done so anyway. It's useless to have it FF, if he has to compete with Ragman or the Pyper for the only solo slot. Noone will play it. At that point, it was better before (into the list but not FF). In general, as usual to me seems that the devs have done a lazy work with this update, making pretty silly mistakes. |
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Post by mydnight on Sept 30, 2017 1:38:42 GMT
- I also don't like how they did put Acosta out of the list of allowed models in Storm Division. It was pointed out when they talked about it in CID, but they ignored it and done so anyway. It's useless to have it FF, if he has to compete with Ragman or the Pyper for the only solo slot. Noone will play it. At that point, it was better before (into the list but not FF). In general, as usual to me seems that the devs have done a lazy work with this update, making pretty silly mistakes. The way warroom is currently implementing him is that he doesn't count towards the merc solo slot. |
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Post by cain on Sept 30, 2017 8:09:47 GMT
All seems sloppy to me. Several nerfs and they left cryx unchanged.
A merc solo in heavy metal would have been sweet.
All cygnar themes seems a litte underwhelming compared to several of the other factions now
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Post by cygnarstronk on Sept 30, 2017 8:51:07 GMT
i can't do anything but lol when I see cryxian themes untouched and ours bashed, again. We have been hit with nothing but nerfs, and cryx had nothing but buffs, it looks stupid.
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Post by bloodsplatterartist on Sept 30, 2017 13:12:25 GMT
Granted cryx was basically unplayable competitively the whole first year while cygnar was arguably one of the best factions in the game.
Really the only faction worse then cryx at the start of mk3 was skorne. Although I may be less worried about ghost fleet as I'm focusing on skorne right now and they have a ton of great answers to cryx.
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Post by bob on Sept 30, 2017 16:04:05 GMT
 2016 cryx result where mid-range not unplayable ^^. Troll is the new skorne ! |
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Post by Aegis on Sept 30, 2017 16:34:33 GMT
- I also don't like how they did put Acosta out of the list of allowed models in Storm Division. It was pointed out when they talked about it in CID, but they ignored it and done so anyway. It's useless to have it FF, if he has to compete with Ragman or the Pyper for the only solo slot. Noone will play it. At that point, it was better before (into the list but not FF). In general, as usual to me seems that the devs have done a lazy work with this update, making pretty silly mistakes. The way warroom is currently implementing him is that he doesn't count towards the merc solo slot. Let's see if this is another pdf error or a warroom error... That said, they could have done one less sleeping pic and one more re-read of the PDF... They waited since the last possible minute to release it, and it's full of errors I noticed right away while reading it for the first time... |
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Post by Cryptix on Sept 30, 2017 16:41:25 GMT
The way warroom is currently implementing him is that he doesn't count towards the merc solo slot. Let's see if this is another pdf error or a warroom error... That said, they could have done one less sleeping pic and one more re-read of the PDF... They waited since the last possible minute to release it, and it's full of errors I noticed right away while reading it for the first time... I can tell you as a (video) game designer myself you are too tilted by your deadline to actually catch anything but the most grievous errors, and even then you get game breaking bugs still slip past. |
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Post by Aegis on Sept 30, 2017 16:50:53 GMT
Let's see if this is another pdf error or a warroom error... That said, they could have done one less sleeping pic and one more re-read of the PDF... They waited since the last possible minute to release it, and it's full of errors I noticed right away while reading it for the first time... I can tell you as a (video) game designer myself you are too tilted by your deadline to actually catch anything but the most grievous errors, and even then you get game breaking bugs still slip past. I'm also a software tester as job, and I also control release documents when new versions are delivered. If I let slip things much smaller than these, I get a long and big scolding at work. |
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on Sept 30, 2017 17:35:19 GMT
Per Pagani on the Cygnar FB page, SotT is supposed to allow both Squire and jacks without ranged weapons. There was a mix up and they are fixing it. I hope that this is implemented soon. Being outside looking in (I don't play Cygnar, but I play against them a lot), Sons of the Tempest looks too restrictive. I'd actually like to play against the final version. |
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