Ganso
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Post by Ganso on Sept 29, 2017 22:48:21 GMT
Remeber guys, these are only the first playable drafts, they will go through CID in the future (as per the Will Hydra comments near LnL). That said, WGK is beginning to frustrate me, it's probably the list with the most options and it's artificially limited by the bonuses. Between Widowmakers, Andrei and now AKs we would have a lot of different variations to play with, but the lack of synergy with the theme bonuses we may as well pretend they're not there (or play out of Theme). That said, Wolves of Winter looks totally Legit and I can wait to get the new MoW stuff to actually play the damn thing  |
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Post by welshhoppo on Sept 29, 2017 22:54:41 GMT
What are you thinking for wolves?
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Sept 29, 2017 22:55:53 GMT
The thing that bugs me about the MOW theme is that they keep listing MOW as a "Light Jack Compensation". Can they drop that? MOWs have NOTHING to do with Light Jacks. They don't function like them even in the same UNIVERSE!
Edit: As for why we have the limitations?
Its because we didn't get a Jack Points drop for instance.
Imagine this:
If many themes are +1
And Our themes are +2
And other themes got +2
Our compensation is getting +1 instead of +2.
Im happy with this.
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Growl
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Post by Growl on Sept 29, 2017 22:56:17 GMT
So as I posted earlier, and then it got buried, is there a bug with Wolves of Winter not allowing Kayazy? The other themes seem to allow them?
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Post by sand20go on Sept 29, 2017 22:56:45 GMT
My Vlad2 list I think got strictly better with the new theme. I can swap out WGIRC for Nyss. Saxon can still come to help with terrain. That leaves me 18 points to still play with - suggesting, for example, Drakhun_S_ or I could go with TWO units of demoCorp - who hitting at POW 19 with critical freeze (thank you Arcane Might) would seem to IMMEDIATELY threaten to end the game from 14 inches away. Points don't work out to bring a second MOW Kovnick (own one) but still playing around with optimizing. Will play tomorrow and post in "my" loud chriss thread. A&H into Vlad1 and all the Rockets and it feels like my work is done ;-) I was actually thinking about Chris Vlad2 list, it's pretty much a direct improvement and anything you wanted can be found. Yup. Losing the rockets (and the eliminators) I think is going to be sad but the flip side is that the Nyss are GREAT feat token choices and hit like bricks. Indeed, I may try to run a list with Man of War Shocks and then MIN Demo Corp and Bombers. Seems legit to..... Allocate 1 to conquest Cast Arcane Might feat Token on 2 demo corps (redundancy) Send them in charging with a boosted (Arcane Might) attack rolls for the critical. If hit then shoot the warnoun to shreads with lots and lots of things ;-) |
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Post by tesoe on Sept 29, 2017 23:00:05 GMT
Double Min Unit Vlad1 now works in theme.
Theme: Winter Guard Kommand
2 / 2 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army
Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Prince - WJ: +28
- Juggernaut - PC: 12 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12)
- Grolar - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich - PC: 4
Winter Guard Artillery Kapitan - PC: 0
Winter Guard Artillery Kapitan - PC: 3
Assault Kommandos - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10
- Assault Kommando Flame Thrower - PC: 2
- Assault Kommando Flame Thrower - PC: 2
- Assault Kommando Flame Thrower - PC: 2
Assault Kommandos - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10
- Assault Kommando Flame Thrower - PC: 2
- Assault Kommando Flame Thrower - PC: 2
- Assault Kommando Flame Thrower - PC: 2
Winter Guard Rifle Corps - Leader & 5 Grunts: 8
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
Winter Guard Rifle Corps - Leader & 5 Grunts: 8
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0
Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 5
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Post by welshhoppo on Sept 29, 2017 23:04:00 GMT
So as I posted earlier, and then it got buried, is there a bug with Wolves of Winter not allowing Kayazy? The other themes seem to allow them? Looks like a bug to me. I can't add them either. |
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Ganso
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Post by Ganso on Sept 29, 2017 23:13:25 GMT
What are you thinking for wolves? Nothing fancy, OW_2 with full Doomie boat and Fenris, Free Koldun Lords. Haven't decide on my Merc options. But effective POW 14 Weapon Masters (or even 16 and 18 with the right Merc Options) is pretty sweet. |
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Post by smoothcriminal on Sept 29, 2017 23:17:11 GMT
That said, WGK is beginning to frustrate me, it's probably the list with the most options and it's artificially limited by the bonuses. Between Widowmakers, Andrei and now AKs we would have a lot of different variations to play with, but the lack of synergy with the theme bonuses we may as well pretend they're not there (or play out of Theme). In my experience 40pt to get 2 bonuses is bare minimum for themes. So you can have 3x3 rockets, get 2 bonuses and then free to get AKs. AKs bring the important function of anti-cloud and are the sole source of Grievous wounds in the faction. With access to mercs and AKs WGK becomes fantastic choice for ADR casters. |
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Growl
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Post by Growl on Sept 29, 2017 23:49:11 GMT
I'm trying to figure out how to make Sorscha1 work with Wolves, but having trouble figuring out how to deliver them? I was thinking Eliminators with Ternion clouds on them, but even then a bit too little. Zerkova1 whom I have never played could put out up to 12" of clouds on turn one and then also be pretty good protection for them with her FEAT.
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Post by welshhoppo on Sept 29, 2017 23:53:56 GMT
Jaws has already changed to allow a free Yuri.
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Post by ozvelpoon on Sept 30, 2017 0:20:52 GMT
Manhunter's may see play now! YAAAAAAY!
I may try and mix up my Strakhov1 Jaws list now...
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wendan
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Post by wendan on Sept 30, 2017 0:32:14 GMT
I'm ok with the changes. And I'm excited for the new themes!
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bsee
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Post by bsee on Sept 30, 2017 1:10:43 GMT
In the wolves of winter theme, can doom reavers gain the free upkeep spell benefits?
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wags
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Post by wags on Sept 30, 2017 1:18:25 GMT
In the wolves of winter theme, can doom reavers gain the free upkeep spell benefits? Unfortunately no |
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