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Post by macdaddy on Sept 25, 2017 16:44:31 GMT
I mean, it really is not a bad theme. I honestly expected worse afetr secret masters was teased.
Una 2, Kaya 1-3 and Kromac 2 will get mileage out of this theme. I don't want a theme as good as Dark industries. I just want a theme that makes it viable to take a living beast pack to a tourney again and this theme may be our solution to jack spam after all this time!
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Post by jisidro on Sept 25, 2017 16:57:00 GMT
Covered? I don't see those boundaries on any other faction... Is there a theme that says non-Nightmare or Non-thorn warjacks? It's exactly the same.
Why doesn't bones say non-living warbeasts for free points? On that theme a caster with a living warbeast bond can take it and not lose a free solo... Why can't baldur who is a prime candidate for this theme?
Skorne says "hi". We have a theme that can be used by all of 4 (5?) Warlocks per the theme rules. At least you have a choice to give Baldur living warbeasts if you want him in theme.
It's not about who is worse, just to make sure... is that the theme that adds beasts to your stable? This one takes them away and also removes Bradigus from the equation.
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Post by elshinare on Sept 25, 2017 17:13:28 GMT
So, bones of Orboros limits to non character warbeasts with the construct advantage, which means no living warbeasts right? And there is hate on this theme because it limits taking construct warbeasts?
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Post by jisidro on Sept 25, 2017 17:14:50 GMT
I mean, it really is not a bad theme. I honestly expected worse afetr secret masters was teased. Una 2, Kaya 1-3 and Kromac 2 will get mileage out of this theme. I don't want a theme as good as Dark industries. I just want a theme that makes it viable to take a living beast pack to a tourney again and this theme may be our solution to jack spam after all this time!
I don't expect a theme to be awesome with everyone... But I expect limitations to make sense or be balanced... Why is Bradigus off this theme? Why is Megalith a big nono? Why type Living on a theme that only takes living warbeasts? Why not type it in Bones?
Regarding Una2... I haven't seen how the Una2 devourer's fared in the WTC but they are an evolution of the Una2 pure BG lists... Do you think it'll change back?
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 25, 2017 17:15:58 GMT
I mean, it really is not a bad theme. I honestly expected worse afetr secret masters was teased. Una 2, Kaya 1-3 and Kromac 2 will get mileage out of this theme. I don't want a theme as good as Dark industries. I just want a theme that makes it viable to take a living beast pack to a tourney again and this theme may be our solution to jack spam after all this time!
I don't expect a theme to be awesome with everyone... But I expect limitations to make sense or be balanced... Why is Bradigus off this theme? Why is Megalith a big nono? Why type Living on a theme that only takes living warbeasts? Why not type it in Bones?
Regarding Una2... I haven't seen how the Una2 devourer's fared in the WTC but they are an evolution of the Una2 pure BG lists... Do you think it'll change back?
I think it will be a healthy mix. Una with 9-10 scarsfells that all have dodge all the time is pretty potent.
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Post by jisidro on Sept 25, 2017 17:19:23 GMT
So, bones of Orboros limits to non character warbeasts with the construct advantage, which means no living warbeasts right? And there is hate on this theme because it limits taking construct warbeasts?
Because 3 out of 5 themes limit BG choices... And this one even "prevents" a character beast from being taken by saying it won't contribute to free points... At least according to the insider...
I see no real reason for this when most faction have no such barriers applied. Bones and Heavy metal are almost carbon copies yet one gets to take a small part of the available choices and the other one has full access.
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Post by spideredd on Sept 25, 2017 17:19:33 GMT
I like it. Not sure who to play in it, but I'm liking Kromac (Not sure which yet) so I can get Ghetorix.
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Post by albertairish on Sept 25, 2017 17:36:13 GMT
Baulder has two entirely different tiers that benefit non-living heavies more. He is covered. Covered? I don't see those boundaries on any other faction... Is there a theme that says non-Nightmare or Non-thorn warjacks? It's exactly the same.
Why doesn't bones say non-living warbeasts for free points? On that theme a caster with a living warbeast bond can take it and not lose a free solo... Why can't baldur who is a prime candidate for this theme?
There's an entire Legion theme that only allows Nephilim beasts. Be happy they didn't restrict you to Satyrs.
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Post by smoothcriminal on Sept 25, 2017 17:42:27 GMT
Great theme, it even has minions allowed. A big upgrade to Circle competitiveness. So, bones of Orboros limits to non character warbeasts with the construct advantage, which means no living warbeasts right? And there is hate on this theme because it limits taking construct warbeasts? The argument is that you can take living character warbeast in stone theme and get free points for it. And you can take stone character warbeast in living theme but not get points for it. Which kinda doesn't make sense, either both should not count or both should count.
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Post by jisidro on Sept 25, 2017 17:50:12 GMT
Covered? I don't see those boundaries on any other faction... Is there a theme that says non-Nightmare or Non-thorn warjacks? It's exactly the same.
Why doesn't bones say non-living warbeasts for free points? On that theme a caster with a living warbeast bond can take it and not lose a free solo... Why can't baldur who is a prime candidate for this theme?
There's an entire Legion theme that only allows Nephilim beasts. Be happy they didn't restrict you to Satyrs. It's called Bones of Orboros in Circle.
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Post by spideredd on Sept 25, 2017 17:55:52 GMT
There's an entire Legion theme that only allows Nephilim beasts. Be happy they didn't restrict you to Satyrs. It's called Bones of Orboros in Circle. Not quite the same. As far as I'm aware, all non-character nephalim are light beasts and there are what, three or four of them.
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Post by jisidro on Sept 25, 2017 17:58:03 GMT
It's called Bones of Orboros in Circle. Not quite the same. As far as I'm aware, all non-character nephalim are light beasts and there are what, three or four of them. No, not the same but similar. There are 6 total worlds... 1 gargant, 2 heavies, character heavy, 2 lights... The third light releases in 2 months.
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Post by spideredd on Sept 25, 2017 18:05:54 GMT
No, not the same but similar. I will grant you that they are similarly restrictive. Most of those have gone through CID too, whereas nothing in oracle has yet (well, the warbeasts haven't). Children of the Dragon is a weird theme. I'd much rather play Bones than that one.
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Post by Korianneder on Sept 25, 2017 18:12:56 GMT
Similarly ravens of war is restricted to flying and light beasts. The hordes theme forces are much more restrictive then warmachine ones.
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Post by jisidro on Sept 25, 2017 18:33:36 GMT
Similarly ravens of war is restricted to flying and light beasts. The hordes theme forces are much more restrictive then warmachine ones. Yup, SotT even got the limitation removed... Ret still has and will probably keep the same "perk"...
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