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Post by slinkdawg on Sept 20, 2017 3:16:13 GMT
Any advice for dealing with Coven Dark Host these days?
Lots of Cryx players are bringing 2 units of Bane Cav and Coven does a great job delivering them by denying line of sight. While I usually have lots of outs for Stealth, their feat is miserable.
Additionally, you need to deal with a wraith engine, but again the feat will stop you from laying into it with bootable magic guns.
So you can drop Haley2 and buy yourself a turn where they can't feat and flood into you. Are there any other good tips or suggestions?
It's tricky coming up with a Cygnar list to play into both Ghost Fleet and Dark Host, but Coven seems to add another level of problems.
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Post by gobber on Sept 20, 2017 4:23:54 GMT
I would think siege2/stryker of various flavors/maddox and other melee casters will do reasonably well. Banes (even cav) will also have a hard time with haley3 clouds/defskew. Nemo3 can probably still fry things. Coven Dark Host will hose most heavy metal lists but storm division and gravediggers both have options into the list.
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Post by cain on Sept 20, 2017 6:14:20 GMT
Haley2 had good game before nerf. After the nerf its not good.
The best one i can see now is siege build to take on cryx.
Maybe haley3 in gravediggers when that is out.
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Post by xadmar on Sept 20, 2017 20:09:52 GMT
I would think Sloan would do well here if they are running 2 units of cav.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Sept 20, 2017 21:43:32 GMT
I would think Sloan would do well here if they are running 2 units of cav. I have played that game, Sloan gets Rekt with no lube |
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Post by cain on Sept 21, 2017 6:26:48 GMT
I would think Sloan would do well here if they are running 2 units of cav. Sloan is not good against Coven IMO. On the feat turn you cant shoot. Next turn the cryx are charging you. If you move back to not get charged, you are in trouble with scenario. |
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Post by slinkdawg on Sept 21, 2017 14:22:47 GMT
I would think Sloan would do well here if they are running 2 units of cav. I have played that game, Sloan gets Rekt with no lube That was my experience playing Sloan into coven on Sunday. She ignores all the clouds and stealth, but coven's feat denying LOS past 5" away just shuts her down. |
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Post by pvtjoker on Sept 21, 2017 17:10:11 GMT
I played into Coven Dark Host twice recently with my Siege 1 list and the Cyclones covering fire kept his infantry pinned in. If he had been running Bane Riders it may have gone differently.
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Post by xadmar on Sept 21, 2017 22:09:39 GMT
Ah sorry, our metas two Cryx players in my meta don't play often and one of them does not play against Cygnar. Forgot about the covens feat.
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Post by slinkdawg on Sept 22, 2017 20:34:33 GMT
It's all good! Just wanted to get people talking about Coven. They are a problem with 2 units of bane cav these days and their stock is rising.
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Post by snarlyyow on Sept 22, 2017 20:47:53 GMT
It's all good! Just wanted to get people talking about Coven. They are a problem with 2 units of bane cav these days and their stock is rising. Units of Cav scream Siege 1 to me. And I see he's hitting the meta a little harder at WTC. |
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Post by slinkdawg on Sept 22, 2017 21:01:57 GMT
It's all good! Just wanted to get people talking about Coven. They are a problem with 2 units of bane cav these days and their stock is rising. Units of Cav scream Siege 1 to me. And I see he's hitting the meta a little harder at WTC. Can you get around coven's feat with ground pounder as long as you place the aoe within 5" LOS of siege? I guess the other option is to back Siege out of the feat and get your LOS back. I like the idea. I do like Siege with 2 storm striders and hurricane lately. |
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Post by bluebarren on Sept 22, 2017 23:44:30 GMT
I would think siege has at least some game into almost any dark host and ghost fleet lists. He's got enough of a toolbox to deal with most of their tricks to a decent extent.
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Post by pvtjoker on Sept 23, 2017 2:16:09 GMT
Also, I have really liked the new Triumph so far. True Sight, Dual Attack, and auto-boosted damage are all great. He counters a lot of Cryx issues like Stealth, clouds, and Incorporeal. Coven's Feat turn is obviously rough but outside of that he helps a lot.
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