Asmoridin
Junior Strategist
Getting back into the game after too long a hiatus!
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Post by Asmoridin on Sept 15, 2017 20:24:59 GMT
This looks like it'll be a fun list to play!
This also looks like a list that will be absolutely miserable to play against in a lot of cases :-\
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Post by mindwormjim on Sept 15, 2017 20:50:38 GMT
I don't think Carapace on Cryx heavies will break the game or anything, but the idea of a theme granting such a flat statistical bonus makes me a little uncomfortable.
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Post by W0lfBane on Sept 15, 2017 21:38:25 GMT
I don't think Carapace on Cryx heavies will break the game or anything, but the idea of a theme granting such a flat statistical bonus makes me a little uncomfortable. I actually wish all themes just had powerful effects like this instead of giving free points. This list grants both and is going to be a miserable jack mountain |
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Kavrae
Junior Strategist
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Post by Kavrae on Sept 15, 2017 21:43:01 GMT
I don't think Carapace on Cryx heavies will break the game or anything, but the idea of a theme granting such a flat statistical bonus makes me a little uncomfortable. I actually wish all themes just had powerful effects like this instead of giving free points. This list grants both and is going to be a miserable jack mountain I would love to see nothing but abilities and stats, with free points being an incredibly rare thing reserved for themes that are intentionally spammy. |
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Sept 15, 2017 21:48:47 GMT
I actually wish all themes just had powerful effects like this instead of giving free points. This list grants both and is going to be a miserable jack mountain I would love to see nothing but abilities and stats, with free points being an incredibly rare thing reserved for themes that are intentionally spammy. Thats a terrible idea if you want to discourage the use of themes. |
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Post by W0lfBane on Sept 15, 2017 22:00:39 GMT
I would love to see nothing but abilities and stats, with free points being an incredibly rare thing reserved for themes that are intentionally spammy. Thats a terrible idea if you want to discourage the use of themes. I think you're wrong in that respect but discussing it would probably be of topic. On topic it is kind of frustrating that cryxs jack theme can have a screening unit but most other jack themes are like lol get Firetrucked. |
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Post by elladan52 on Sept 15, 2017 22:02:58 GMT
Thats a terrible idea if you want to discourage the use of themes. I think you're wrong in that respect but discussing it would probably be of topic. On topic it is kind of frustrating that cryxs jack theme can have a screening unit but most other jack themes are like lol get Firetrucked. Which ones are like that? |
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Deller
Junior Strategist
I’m on a Boat
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Post by Deller on Sept 15, 2017 22:45:23 GMT
Carapace seems crazy strong. I understand that Cryx Jacks die too easy to shooting, but they'll be impossible to take down at range with this. I see this theme and then I look at secret masters and I just wonder...What the heck. Welcome to Gaspy3 Jack spam...because we need more jack spam in MK3. How do they test these lists and think they are balanced? I'm not seeing this as a problem with Asphyxious3. Asphyxious3 is extremely Focus starved assuming you're casting Mobility, which would be the point in taking him, you're left with only 4 focus meaning if you want to boost a Calamity you don't get to allocate anything & Cryx Jacks with no buffs/Debuffs aren't very scary. Asphyxious3 is much better with a balanced list & this theme doesn't really have the things I want with him. The real casters I think this theme are going to empower are Scaverous, Mortenebra1, & Venethrax. Mortenebra1 jack gunlines seem pretty disgusting when Leviathans get Carapace, & I'm not sure it's acceptable. Venethrax is great since Deathjack can cast Mortality for him making Slayer Spam with Venethrax potentially viable. Scaverous I'm thinking of a list that looks like: Scaverous Withershadow Combine Ripjaw - Free Ripjaw - Free Stalker Inflictor Erebus Deathjack Max Croe's Cutthroats Wrong Eye |
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Post by Azuresun on Sept 15, 2017 22:58:57 GMT
I don't think Carapace on Cryx heavies will break the game or anything, but the idea of a theme granting such a flat statistical bonus makes me a little uncomfortable. I actually wish all themes just had powerful effects like this instead of giving free points. This list grants both and is going to be a miserable jack mountain I just wish themes were consistent. Right now, it feels like two people are designing themes, each locked in a different room and forbidden to talk to the other one. Also, why do some themes go through CID and others just get dropped as-is? |
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Post by W0lfBane on Sept 15, 2017 23:00:16 GMT
I think you're wrong in that respect but discussing it would probably be of topic. On topic it is kind of frustrating that cryxs jack theme can have a screening unit but most other jack themes are like lol get Firetrucked. Which ones are like that? i guess when i look at it is just protectorate. Battlemages for ret is more like a threat extending unit tgough rather than a screen |
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Post by Blargaliscious on Sept 15, 2017 23:25:57 GMT
Hey, a Cryx jack theme that lets me play them like Khador. I can work with that...
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Post by mcdermott on Sept 15, 2017 23:36:16 GMT
Bane witch Desecrator spam ftw.
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Post by Cryptix on Sept 16, 2017 0:12:20 GMT
Still getting arms shot off somewhere.
But yeah, God must be trying to shut me up somewhere considering I was complaining about how Cryx has no jack theme and is too easy to shoot up yesterday....
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Deller
Junior Strategist
I’m on a Boat
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Post by Deller on Sept 16, 2017 0:20:10 GMT
Bane witch Desecrator spam ftw. Goreshade1 might be better for Desecrator spam. Lamentation makes spellcasting difficult, & Shadowmancer adds another layer of shooting protection that lasts all game. |
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 16, 2017 0:34:14 GMT
Carapace DJ takes an average 5 damage from two boosted Stormwall shots. This is dumb. Now it will be harder to kill Cryx at range than Khador. Two shots from one of the best guns in the game barely scratch it. Don't use guns? #cygnarbalance |
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