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Post by sircas on Mar 16, 2017 4:41:12 GMT
This is to pair with a jack heavy/ incorporeal list.
Coven
Malice
Nightwretch x2
Satyxis raiders max + UA
Blood witches max +UA
Bane warriors max +UA
Raider captain
Theres a lot of support I want (darragh, withershadow) but cant find the points/ not sure if they are worth it.
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Post by darkshroud on Mar 16, 2017 5:06:23 GMT
People are going to suggest dropping the ua for the warriors and making them a min unit.
Just saved you like, 13 pts. Thats 9 pts for wrathe and 4 pts for whatever.
I feel like bloodwitches are a unit too much. But personal opinions are personal. If you like them, go crazy.
I just figured youd occultation the warriors and the raiders enegage fast enough.
And id figure you want a target for infernal machine. Not sure if malice is the right choice for it.
But i could be wrong
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Post by Gamingdevil on Mar 16, 2017 10:22:00 GMT
Yeah, I think it's worth considering dropping Malice for 2 Stalkers. Malice is good, but Stalkers where you can easily cycle Infernal Machine on are Murderous! (sorry, couldn't resist)
I don't think you need Darragh, because his only point would be to make the Bane Warriors faster, that's too little for 9 points, which would be better spent on Withershadow. I think you might be fine without either as the Coven are naturally focus efficient.
I agree with minifying the Bane Warriors, they're more easy to protect just by staying next to the Egregore and can still be powerful late game pieces. But, if you like them with Occultation, go for it. If you do decide to make them a min unit, then it might be worth swapping out one of the Satyxis units for something that can use Occultation such as cavalry.
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Post by far2casual on Mar 16, 2017 11:00:17 GMT
Along the lines of the suggestions, this is my test for this evening. Keep in mind I'm looking for an anti gunline pairing for my Ghost Fleet, who still needs to be able to handle a reasonable amount of armour.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Mar 16, 2017 13:08:23 GMT
No arc nodes at all to threaten assassination or do you intend to just use the Egregore when needed? I would ditch the Bane Warrior attachment and squeeze in a Deathripper. I think the list will perform fine.
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Post by sircas on Mar 16, 2017 15:18:13 GMT
No arc nodes at all to threaten assassination or do you intend to just use the Egregore when needed? I would ditch the Bane Warrior attachment and squeeze in a Deathripper. I think the list will perform fine. Not sure which list you were referring to since they all have arc nodes. I do want to keep the full bane unit. My meta has enough heavies rocking around for them to keep busy. Malice is for extending threat ranges and for late game tanking with souls. There are other good jack choices but this list wants to stay infantry focused. Ill play it as is, I think I agree darragh doesnt do enough for his points here, and see how it goes. |
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Post by Gamingdevil on Mar 16, 2017 15:33:19 GMT
No arc nodes at all to threaten assassination or do you intend to just use the Egregore when needed? I would ditch the Bane Warrior attachment and squeeze in a Deathripper. I think the list will perform fine. Not sure which list you were referring to since they all have arc nodes. I do want to keep the full bane unit. My meta has enough heavies rocking around for them to keep busy. Malice is for extending threat ranges and for late game tanking with souls. There are other good jack choices but this list wants to stay infantry focused. Ill play it as is, I think I agree darragh doesnt do enough for his points here, and see how it goes. Sorry, I was replying to Far2Casual and I somehow managed to miss the Deathripper that was there. |
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Post by bfdhud on Mar 16, 2017 16:14:52 GMT
Plz report back how this list works out
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Post by juicedbuddha on Mar 16, 2017 17:29:17 GMT
take 2 min units of bloodwitches instead of 1max with ua.
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pain
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by pain on Mar 23, 2017 16:02:53 GMT
I use list with 2 stalkers to kill key solos or even made assasinate attempt with infernal machine.
PAIN
LIST #1
Bunker
The Witch Coven of Garlghast - WJ: +26
- Egregore
- The Withershadow Combine - Maelovus, Admonia & Tremulus: 9
- Deathripper - PC: 6 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Deathripper - PC: 6 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Stalker - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8)
- Stalker - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor - PC: 5
Machine Wraith - PC: 2
Machine Wraith - PC: 2
Satyxis Raiders - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
- Satyxis Raider Sea Witch - PC: 3
Satyxis Raiders - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
- Satyxis Raider Sea Witch - PC: 3
Bane Warriors - Leader & 9 Grunts: 17
MW is perfect control tool. List works well vs any gunlines and mid-high armor ~20 if we consider it as warmachine drop. This coven list can play vs hordes but i prefer to use asphy3 or denny1 as second list for tournaments.
I dont think bloodwitches is good choice now, because they are too weak when blast damage appears in enemy army.
Originally list provided by Ruffy from pp forums, i tweak it a bit after test to fit my playstyle.
Played like 35+ games with that list incl tournament stats 6-1 in mk3
If you want use heavy jack build i suggest to consider slayer spam instead of deathjack and replace bane riders to soulhunters to clear infantry that screen enemy jacks or even remove it from list.
So my theorycraft coven jack list looks like this:
The Witch Coven of Garlghast - WJ: +26
- Egregore
- The Withershadow Combine - Maelovus, Admonia & Tremulus: 9
- Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
- Slayer - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
- Deathripper - PC: 6 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Barathrum - PC: 15
Warwitch Siren - PC: 4
Warwitch Siren - PC: 4
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor - PC: 5
Machine Wraith - PC: 2
Satyxis Raiders - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
- Satyxis Raider Sea Witch - PC: 3
Bane Warriors - Leader & 9 Grunts: 17
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