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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Mar 12, 2017 20:02:58 GMT
This stuff is so amazing my bank account will seriously be hurting come June. So much stuff to get my hands on I will be picking up the Priest of Nyssor for sure RAT 7 Nyss Hunters? Yes Please. As far as everything else goes I was really looking forward to our character unit and now that I see how cool they look I don't care if their rules are crap I will probably be picking them up.
Edit: Do you think it is possible that Aelyth Vyr is actually a character UA for the Ryssovass Defenders? It specifically states 'when led by' in the text so who knows.
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Post by koku0ryu on Mar 12, 2017 21:02:20 GMT
Hoping the Nyss buffs aren't friendly faction and are just friendly nyss, so they work on lanyssa
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Post by koku0ryu on Mar 12, 2017 21:10:52 GMT
This stuff is so amazing my bank account will seriously be hurting come June. So much stuff to get my hands on I will be picking up the Priest of Nyssor for sure RAT 7 Nyss Hunters? Yes Please. As far as everything else goes I was really looking forward to our character unit and now that I see how cool they look I don't care if their rules are crap I will probably be picking them up. Edit: Do you think it is possible that Aelyth Vyr is actually a character UA for the Ryssovass Defenders? It specifically states 'when led by' in the text so who knows. TRADE POINTS: A champion among the Ryssovass Defenders (PIP 35077), Aelyth Vyr pairs well with all the new Nyss releases as well as with warcasters who favor strong melee solos like Elara, Death’s Shadow (PIP 35076) and Thyron, Sword of Truth (PIP 35064).
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Post by lonehunter on Mar 12, 2017 22:06:28 GMT
With Ghyrrshlyd having the God of winter weapon and winter/cold abilities and now the new Nyss priest granting immunity cold I am now wondering if G4 will have Nyss as his go too troops over Ret units, makes sense as they would still be pissed at him, I did read somewhere some one said it would be cool if he had animosity Dawnguard, and if so, a weapon master unit to replace the sents he cannot use...
Thoughts?
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Post by Demeritus on Mar 12, 2017 22:24:17 GMT
So you can find someone who wants one of your kidney in order to afford all of this? Touche good sir.
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Post by joedj on Mar 12, 2017 23:11:18 GMT
With Ghyrrshlyd having the God of winter weapon and winter/cold abilities and now the new Nyss priest granting immunity cold I am now wondering if G4 will have Nyss as his go too troops over Ret units, makes sense as they would still be pissed at him, I did read somewhere some one said it would be cool if he had animosity Dawnguard, and if so, a weapon master unit to replace the sents he cannot use... Thoughts? Makes sense for Theme lists. Also sales. 'Cause if the Nyss weaponmasters aren't as survive-able as Sentinels, why buy/field the Nyss? [Significantly cheaper PC?] And if the Nyss weaponmasters are as survive-able, Sentinels get displaced?
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Post by W0lfBane on Mar 13, 2017 2:52:03 GMT
Man all these releases make me jelly. They all look super cool and useful.
Like cheap shieldgards. A paladin like caster attachement. Spell hate. A+
Also is it me or does the jack only have one weapon arm and the other one is an arc node
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Mar 13, 2017 3:58:49 GMT
Makes sense for Theme lists. Also sales. 'Cause if the Nyss weaponmasters aren't as survive-able as Sentinels, why buy/field the Nyss? [Significantly cheaper PC?] And if the Nyss weaponmasters are as survive-able, Sentinels get displaced? Personally I hope they have something else that distinguishes them. Sentinels will probably stay as our heavy armor/super durable weapon masters but these guys could have something else to make them situationally better. Perhaps SPD 7 and Pathfinder base but only POW 10s or maybe some other special movement tech. If these guys are a basic weapons master unit with nothing special about them they will fill the same role as sentinels and one will be always statically better than the other but if they have so other cool tricks then maybe that can fill two different roles.
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Post by jimmyjackjohnjoe on Mar 13, 2017 5:06:16 GMT
Man getting 4given back is gonna be sweet! We are Cryxing haaaard these days. Adding some more elemental stuff makes sense, we've always been the jack of all trades faction, seems as though we just need some corrosion and we've got it all covered.
Looks like we've also got our next subfaction in our long suffering brethren. I hope they bring some blighted animosity with them.
Is everyone totally convinced that the Spears are our character unit? I'm kind of hoping not... I'd way rather see a ranged option or some diversity in weaponry at least. I guess abilities could seperate their roles but I'm still hoping they're just another 3-man unit.
Paying for vengeance in a three man unit and utilizing mage-hunter armour for shield guards isn't striking me as "sure to be an extremely popular unit..." With the tax for those abilities I'm kind of worried their other stuff will be underwhelming. 4shade coming back with recursion and talk of "[accepting] their mortality to serve without fear of death" leads me to think (hope) they have some sort of anti-death that still triggers Vengeance (with Shield guard). If I'm being honest that sounds like waaaaay too much internal synergy and just overall awesome for mk2 Ret but we seem to be closer to a favored faction in mk3 and I don't know how to justify those abilities without it. Shield guarding yourself to mostly assured death for 1-2 vengeance moves doesnt add up to 3pts a model in my eyes. If we do have recursion on these guys I get the feeling that Cryx as a faction may just pack their bags and sail after the Orgoth (only to drown in a salty sea of their own tears).
I'm super curious to see how our new arcanist crew turns out. I hope those bomb like things on their belts are smoke bombs or our missing corrosion, possibly an aoe of coffee?
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Post by Centipede on Mar 13, 2017 5:21:05 GMT
What are the odds that the mage hunter character unit can have Eiryss3 attached?
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Post by Demeritus on Mar 13, 2017 5:33:57 GMT
What are the odds that the mage hunter character unit can have Eiryss3 attached? So long as they are typed as Mage Hunters, she can attach to them since her rules say she can attach to any small based mage hunter unit.
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Post by K1rby on Mar 13, 2017 7:54:21 GMT
So you can find someone who wants one of your kidney in order to afford all of this? That's a cheap kidney... Sounds like the Mechanic unit might have some sort of offensive spell ala Vassal. Hope it's something to buff jacks instead but on top of Concentrated Power I would doubt it.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Mar 13, 2017 12:27:43 GMT
What are the odds that the mage hunter character unit can have Eiryss3 attached? So long as they are typed as Mage Hunters, she can attach to them since her rules say she can attach to any small based mage hunter unit. That could be pretty crazy though I don't know if it would be worth it. Almost doubling their points for Repo 3 and a shot would be mediocre at best thought I guess it depends on what they provide for her as in most character units they all have some form of cool granted abilities. EDIT: So I was just thinking with all of these new releases it is quite likely that we will eventually get a Nyss theme force so what would it be like to have one of the bonuses be Lanyssa is Friendly Faction in theme?
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Post by jimmyjackjohnjoe on Mar 14, 2017 2:32:04 GMT
I guess nobody likes wall of text posts...
TLDR of above is: we positive the Spears = Characters? Regardless, Shield Guard on 3pt models with mage hunter armour for 1-2 vengeance moves seems like wasted points unless they have a way to keep themselves alive, or better yet, recur themselves, hence their "no fear of death" trade description (the Broken coast would be so salty Cygnarians could walk to the Schardes).
Also arcanist unit: carrying smoke bombs or coffee AOEs?
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Post by Dirhavel on Mar 14, 2017 5:59:07 GMT
Man getting 4given back is gonna be sweet! We are Cryxing haaaard these days. Adding some more elemental stuff makes sense, we've always been the jack of all trades faction, seems as though we just need some corrosion and we've got it all covered. Looks like we've also got our next subfaction in our long suffering brethren. I hope they bring some blighted animosity with them. Is everyone totally convinced that the Spears are our character unit? I'm kind of hoping not... I'd way rather see a ranged option or some diversity in weaponry at least. I guess abilities could seperate their roles but I'm still hoping they're just another 3-man unit. Paying for vengeance in a three man unit and utilizing mage-hunter armour for shield guards isn't striking me as "sure to be an extremely popular unit..." With the tax for those abilities I'm kind of worried their other stuff will be underwhelming. 4shade coming back with recursion and talk of "[accepting] their mortality to serve without fear of death" leads me to think (hope) they have some sort of anti-death that still triggers Vengeance (with Shield guard). If I'm being honest that sounds like waaaaay too much internal synergy and just overall awesome for mk2 Ret but we seem to be closer to a favored faction in mk3 and I don't know how to justify those abilities without it. Shield guarding yourself to mostly assured death for 1-2 vengeance moves doesnt add up to 3pts a model in my eyes. If we do have recursion on these guys I get the feeling that Cryx as a faction may just pack their bags and sail after the Orgoth (only to drown in a salty sea of their own tears). I'm super curious to see how our new arcanist crew turns out. I hope those bomb like things on their belts are smoke bombs or our missing corrosion, possibly an aoe of coffee? Yeah I'm not convinced they're a character unit yet either. They all seem to have the same weapons and same abilities. Fairly boring for a char unit, even if they're good. Now if 4shade gets something like Stay Death from makeda2, that would be really interesting indeed
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