martini
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Post by martini on Sept 12, 2017 8:16:55 GMT
Hi all!
How does one expand after buying the Tanith box? In what order should the models be bought?
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Post by rezfon on Sept 12, 2017 10:31:05 GMT
I'd recommend expanding to models that can be used in the most number of lists you'll make. So:
2 sets of Sentry Stones & Mannikins 2 Woldwyrds 1 set of Shifting stones to start
After that it depends what you like. Warpwolf Stalker is fantastic, it can deal with infantry blobs and heavier beasts and warjacks.
All that on top of your battlebox gives you 50pts.
I'd then free up points by dropping the Gorax and the Argus from the list if you wanted to improve.
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martini
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Post by martini on Sept 12, 2017 10:46:25 GMT
My gf is wondering between Circle and Legion, and I as her opponent am playing PoM.
She likes the look of the Satyrs and Druid Mist Riders. So I need an ok list, not a tournament list.
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Post by rezfon on Sept 12, 2017 11:18:32 GMT
I'm personally not sold on the mist riders.
In terms of Satyrs, they are generally looked down on in favour of Warpwolves (I really like the Satyrs though), but they have been making a bigger appearance. They are usually ranked in usefulness of Shadowhorn > Riphorn > Gnarlhorn. Gnarlhorn is probably best used with Tanith out of all the warlocks as you can do the Adnomition -> Counterslam trick. Shadowhorn will make it's way into the lists of more warlocks. It's movement range, especially under Kaya 3 is pretty damn crazy.
I haven't taken Satyrs against PoM before, so I don't know how ok to play they will be.
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martini
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Post by martini on Sept 12, 2017 12:49:08 GMT
So is this set of models are a must for most of the lists?
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Post by rezfon on Sept 12, 2017 12:56:04 GMT
So is this set of models are a must for most of the lists? I don't think there's any real *MUST* have models, but they will give the best value for money if the warlock is changed. Sentry stone units are relatively forgiving unit and they work great with Tanith. You cast affliction on the target with tanith then spray the unit with the mannikins, each hit will always deal 1 damage. After 1 mannikin respawn, they become the cheapest model per point in the faction. Woldwyrds are a fantastic source of anti upkeep spells. They get bonus dice to hit and damage things with upkeep spells on them. Even if an opponent purposefully doesn't put an upkeep on a unit/model, the woldwyrds can still tear through infantry with tanith. About 80% of my lists will have sentry stones or woldwyrds
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martini
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Post by martini on Sept 12, 2017 15:36:20 GMT
Thanks!
Is there a Theme force that includes those types of models?
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Post by rezfon on Sept 12, 2017 15:40:11 GMT
Thanks! Is there a Theme force that includes those types of models? unfortunately the only theme that can run that is bones of orboros, but that means you can't use the pureblood, gorax, argus or anything living really. I wouldn't worry about themes to start with, as they heavily restrict what you can take.
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Post by streetpizza on Sept 12, 2017 16:11:28 GMT
If she's not worried about competition and likes what she likes then I wouldn't drive her away from those options. Here's a list that uses her preferences and expands the b-box to 50. conflictchamber.com/#c8200O_-0Mg14BgZ4McI5g5ggoCircle Army - 50 / 50 points [Theme] Secret Masters (Pre-Release) !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Tanith 1) Tanith the Feral Song [+31] - Gorax Rager [7] - Loki [19] - Pureblood Warpwolf [17] - Rip Horn Satyr [14] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [4] Druid Mist Riders (max) [20] Loki is our best character beast and this list offers good armor cracking potential. It plays in the upcoming secret masters theme so she can expand it out with more druid and satyr options to 75pts when you guys are ready and it leaves the door open for inclusion of some minions if she wants to go that route. Mist riders and the satyr won't necessarily make it many more lists but they have good functionality here. To avoid frustration just don't play jack spam POM lists against her and you two should have a lot of fun.
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martini
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Post by martini on Sept 12, 2017 16:54:16 GMT
Thanks for great advices!
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martini
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Post by martini on Sept 16, 2017 14:58:07 GMT
Ok, Tanith starter is on the way. Next month we will expand to 15 points.
Any sugestions?
Also when playing against PoM (my army) what Circle doesn't like to see. I wouldn't like to build a PoM list that would counter her list by accident.
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Post by Fudly on Sept 16, 2017 17:12:20 GMT
I recommend the buying guide on the circle subreddit. www.reddit.com/r/CircleOrboros/comments/6c177v/circle_buying_guide/For next month, I'd get a woldwarden, and play it like it costs 14 points. They are 16 points right now, but they're getting buffed in November or December to 14 points. The woldwarden at 14 points is great. The alternatives are a satyr (which don't see much play) or a woldwyrd & and moonhound (the moonhound doesn't see much play). As far as what you should get, go easy on the heavies, and try not to have more heavies than her. Circle struggles into warjack spam.
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dagowit
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Post by dagowit on Sept 17, 2017 6:08:17 GMT
I think it might also be worth considering Warlock choices. I know that people have been having decent success with Satyrs when run by Kaya3, for example (so if she really wants to run Satyrs, that might help). If she is going to stick with Tanith for a while, the optimal lists is probably different from what Baldur2 wants to run, for example.
I used to run a Gnarlhorn in my Mohsar lists in mk2. Mirage gives you better slam angles and Curse of Shadows compensates somewhat for the low hitting power of the goats.
Also, if you aren't doing it already, it might be a good idea to magnetize the Warpwolf and Satyr kits you buy. That way you get some flexibility and won't be stuck with a model which ends up collecting dust on the shelf. My fiancée, for example, wanted to test a multiple Blindwalker list but when it didn't work out, she was happy that she had magnetised them and could play them as Blackhide Wrastlers.
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 20, 2017 1:34:33 GMT
Ok, Tanith starter is on the way. Next month we will expand to 15 points. Any sugestions? Also when playing against PoM (my army) what Circle doesn't like to see. I wouldn't like to build a PoM list that would counter her list by accident. Amon and Sevy 2 have good (really good) toolkits into circle, I would say anyone other than those 2 should be fine.
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Post by elshinare on Sept 20, 2017 4:43:45 GMT
Since you are expanding to 15 points, I would suggest getting a satyr kit and shifting stones, she could run gnarlhorn satyr or shadowhorn, and the shifting stones for a total of 15 points. Either that or run with a full unit of skinwalkers. it mostly depends on the budget for your armies
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