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Sept 4, 2017 20:45:06 GMT
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Post by Lord_Randall on Sept 4, 2017 20:45:06 GMT
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Post by Nahualli on Sept 5, 2017 18:49:33 GMT
There are some Circle lists that are really weird and I don't have a clue on how to use them. I heard the Europe meta was different but wow, I would need to see them in action. I have seen on videos how the polish play and its gorgeous.
Also, it seems everyone seems to agree that the answer for the current meta is Una2, I will need to start practicing with her to understand why. The first thing I can see is that with Windwall there is no assassination from Ghost Fleet. There is also one list that uses Wrong Eye, that looks fun.
Would that be also a good match against Legion? I hope so.
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Post by streetpizza on Sept 5, 2017 19:32:54 GMT
Our stats pretty much confirm how I feel about circle.
Our themes are just not up to par with what other factions can offer and that's hurting the faction.
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 5, 2017 19:38:07 GMT
Our stats pretty much confirm how I feel about circle. Our themes are just not up to par with what other factions can offer and that's hurting the faction. That and almost every list has either wurmood or Baldur 2 in the pairing. Which shows how abysmal we are at facing gunlines outside of those 2 casters.
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Post by streetpizza on Sept 5, 2017 19:52:43 GMT
Bones of Orboros post CID should solve that problem though.
The problem as I see it is that once those CID changes go through you're going to see a big shift in Circle's pie chart where we end up looking like Cygnar with everything being bones with just the barest smattering of the other three themes (Secret Masters CID pending ... God I hope they put that through CID).
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Post by Dev Null on Sept 5, 2017 20:27:19 GMT
There is also one list that uses Wrong Eye, that looks fun. There were a lot of people teching Wrongeye when 3rd first came out, and it does seem like a lot of fun. But as shooty as this edition appears to be shaping up, it feels like an answer to the wrong question; it seems much easier to get value out of Star-Crossed facing melee opponents than shooters.
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Sept 5, 2017 20:45:59 GMT
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Post by Lord_Randall on Sept 5, 2017 20:45:59 GMT
Bones of Orboros post CID should solve that problem though. The problem as I see it is that once those CID changes go through you're going to see a big shift in Circle's pie chart where we end up looking like Cygnar with everything being bones with just the barest smattering of the other three themes (Secret Masters CID pending ... God I hope they put that through CID). Devourer's Host is strong, and a living beasts theme is coming... Bones is good tought. We will see. @mcdaddy: the most blasoned teams dont bring wurmwood or baldur2. Especially the Polands who hystorically have made of baldur2 their workhorse brought infantry heavys lists. The Germans too...
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 5, 2017 21:00:39 GMT
Devourer's Host is strong, and a living beasts theme is coming... Bones is good tought. We will see. @mcdaddy: the most blasoned teams dont bring wurmwood or baldur2. Especially the Polands who hystorically have made of baldur2 their workhorse brought infantry heavys lists. The Germans too... Well I know little of the German and Pollish Meta but I have heard crazy stories I know not every list has those 2 casters but a lot of them have wurmwood.
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Sept 5, 2017 21:16:15 GMT
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Post by Lord_Randall on Sept 5, 2017 21:16:15 GMT
Devourer's Host is strong, and a living beasts theme is coming... Bones is good tought. We will see. @mcdaddy: the most blasoned teams dont bring wurmwood or baldur2. Especially the Polands who hystorically have made of baldur2 their workhorse brought infantry heavys lists. The Germans too... Well I know little of the German and Pollish Meta but I have heard crazy stories I know not every list has those 2 casters but a lot of them have wurmwood. Una and Wurmwood lead with a huge advantage...
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 5, 2017 22:24:18 GMT
Well I know little of the German and Pollish Meta but I have heard crazy stories I know not every list has those 2 casters but a lot of them have wurmwood. Una and Wurmwood lead with a huge advantage... Yeah...lots of Una 2...paired with Wurmwood...I noticed that.
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Sept 6, 2017 13:12:45 GMT
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Post by rezfon on Sept 6, 2017 13:12:45 GMT
A little surprised people are surprised at the European meta, then again I'm in Europe so most lists seem very reasonable. Saw a few lists (such as Poland knights) where I've played a list that's strikingly similar (only 1 or 2 model changes, core untouched).
Myself and others in my local meta aren't convinced by Una2 lists, but that's because griffon lists just won't work in our meta, but might if you take them to an event.
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Post by mindwormjim on Sept 7, 2017 20:33:14 GMT
Can someone explain to me why are there are so many lists with double Tharn Ravagers? I mean, they're an decent unit and completely mulch infantry, but they kind of struggle against decent ARM or guns. I would think that filling your list with them would leave you with some pretty bad matchups.
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Post by dagowit on Sept 8, 2017 6:04:28 GMT
Can someone explain to me why are there are so many lists with double Tharn Ravagers? I mean, they're an decent unit and completely mulch infantry, but they kind of struggle against decent ARM or guns. I would think that filling your list with them would leave you with some pretty bad matchups. I assume they are designed to handle Cryx. Both Ghost Fleet and Dark Host are boogeymen locally so people try to tech against them and ranged Cygnar for their two lists. Double Ravagers means that even if one unit gets shot off the board, the other will get into melee (and half a unit can do a surprising amount of damage against infantry).
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Sept 8, 2017 8:39:27 GMT
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Post by Lord_Randall on Sept 8, 2017 8:39:27 GMT
Can someone explain to me why are there are so many lists with double Tharn Ravagers? I mean, they're an decent unit and completely mulch infantry, but they kind of struggle against decent ARM or guns. I would think that filling your list with them would leave you with some pretty bad matchups. Best unit in faction, and pow 13 is plenty against infantry or light jacks. 13/15 5 box tough no kd, is a good statline. Una2 fix damage output, other locks like krueger1/morv2/grayle fix guns liability.
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Post by Fudly on Sept 8, 2017 16:58:27 GMT
Myself and others in my local meta aren't convinced by Una2 lists, but that's because griffon lists just won't work in our meta, but might if you take them to an event. Why doesn't una work in your meta? The list seems very versatile to me. Griffins are probably the best in-faction answer to armor, and there are double ravager Una builds that should shred infantry. She also has game into some ranged lists on account of stealth skew and windwall.
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