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Post by davycannonhound on Sept 1, 2017 17:43:32 GMT
Can Legion even be fairly counted among the "cripples?" I mean, we only really have Fyanna Oracles, but the rest isn't garbage. I'd say if a faction can ONLY count on one to three warlocks/warcasters, its not wrong to say they're crippled. Maybe not badly, but still.
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Post by chillychinaman on Sept 1, 2017 17:48:43 GMT
Can Legion even be fairly counted among the "cripples?" I mean, we only really have Fyanna Oracles, but the rest isn't garbage. I'd say if a faction can ONLY count on one to three warlocks/warcasters, its not wrong to say they're crippled. Maybe not badly, but still. What about the reverse case of PoM where the casters are all mostly good, but most of the rest of the faction is "junk?"
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Post by davycannonhound on Sept 1, 2017 17:59:37 GMT
I'd say if a faction can ONLY count on one to three warlocks/warcasters, its not wrong to say they're crippled. Maybe not badly, but still. What about the reverse case of PoM where the casters are all mostly good, but most of the rest of the faction is "junk?" Well, aren't pieces defined by their warlock/warcaster, to some extant? If an entire faction is held back by its choice of troops even with good warlocks/warcasters to use them, then its a crippled faction.
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Post by supasupra on Sept 1, 2017 18:11:25 GMT
What's so bad about Menoth? They have powerful anti-meta pieces and hardest hitting troops. OP AF!
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Grimolf
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Post by Grimolf on Sept 1, 2017 18:19:38 GMT
I'm waiting for the upcoming themes dump. Not all themes have been good, but having one good theme can really prop up a faction (look at Ghost Fleet with Cryx & Oracles with Legion). Revenants were not that good without Ghost Fleet, so perhaps a good theme will beef up the Protectorate's infantry, for example. More themes may also mean more stuff that can take on the currently strong theme lists (hopefully), which should really shake up the meta.
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Post by Blargaliscious on Sept 1, 2017 18:37:27 GMT
Lets vote and see which faction is the weakest (i.e. doing the poorest in the game currently, etc. etc.) Your list of factions in your poll is incomplete - you are going to get skewed results. Please modify the selections available and please add "The faction I am using" as an option. Thank you.
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Deller
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Post by Deller on Sept 1, 2017 21:42:46 GMT
PreNorthkin CID Trolls. post Northkin CID Minions.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Sept 1, 2017 22:44:19 GMT
I will admit that I was a little worried about Legion before Oracles came out but they have been very strong since.
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Post by dazzla on Sept 1, 2017 22:55:57 GMT
What's so bad about Menoth? They have powerful anti-meta pieces and hardest hitting troops. OP AF! One of the problems with Menoth is that they are pretty much the slowest faction. In a game with premeasuring that hurts a lot.
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Post by pangurban on Sept 2, 2017 2:22:35 GMT
What's so bad about Menoth? They have powerful anti-meta pieces and hardest hitting troops. OP AF! One of the problems with Menoth is that they are pretty much the slowest faction. In a game with premeasuring that hurts a lot. With good enough players premeasuring makes very little difference in terms of speed or range. What it does is allow you to avoid making estimation mistakes, but that doesn't affect the threat advantage or disadvantage much. Also, the longer the distance the harder to guess.
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Post by WantonRanger on Sept 5, 2017 14:39:42 GMT
What's so bad about Menoth? They have powerful anti-meta pieces and hardest hitting troops. OP AF! Menoth suffers from being so abjectly mediocre that it isn't capable of ever being meta. It just vaguely cushions meta and never has enough inherent oomph to fight back. yeah we have loads of Weaponmaster - means basically nothing in isolation.
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Post by Cyel on Sept 5, 2017 16:52:48 GMT
What's so bad about Menoth? One of the problems with Menoth is... Menoth suffers from being so abjectly mediocre... Protectorate, for Menoth's sake !
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Post by W0lfBane on Sept 5, 2017 17:19:11 GMT
What's so bad about Menoth? One of the problems with Menoth is... Menoth suffers from being so abjectly mediocre... Protectorate, for Menoth's sake ! I like to imagine they mean the good menoth himself and therfore deserve to be wracked.
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Post by Grimolf on Sept 6, 2017 15:57:15 GMT
Lord Toruk does think that Menoth is mediocre.
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Post by W0lfBane on Sept 6, 2017 17:22:32 GMT
Lord Toruk does think that Menoth is mediocre. Lord toruk is nowhere near as dangerous as the devourer worm and menoth actively hunts the devourer wurm. When it comes to super being heirarchy toruk can go Firetruck himself thinking he's better than anyone.
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