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Post by tiberius on Aug 25, 2017 13:45:50 GMT
so what is hitting CID for Cryx? Any updates?
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Kavrae
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Post by Kavrae on Aug 25, 2017 16:42:48 GMT
Agrimony, Crone of the Dying Strands
Character solo
5 points
Speed 6, DEF 14, CMD 8 everything else irrelevant.
Small base
Incorporeal Undead
Apparition
Tactician Revenants (Revenants ignore each other for movement and LOS within 8")
Magic 7
Black Waters - 5" Opponents lose tough and treat the ground as shallow water
Bone Shaker - RNG 8 POW 12. Models killed by it can move then attack.
Sigil of Power - Magical weapons for model/unit
Edit - I'm quite happy with this model. She fits in nicely as a third free character solo alongside Rengrave and Hellslinger Phantom. She gives us an answer to incorporeal armies and tough spam while being difficult to remove. Tactician should help quite a bit with revival placement as well.
There's also Lt. Crosse who is without a doubt the best soul manipulator in the entire game. But somehow he's a Llaelese Warcaster instead of Cryxian. Seriously, I am SO jealous of all of his abilities.
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Post by tiberius on Aug 25, 2017 17:48:09 GMT
I did see his write up, spend a soul to gain +3 def and spend three souls to get ROF 4 on his gun. Not bad.
She does sound like a really good support. I love tactician as an ability because I am notoriously bad at placement and anything that alleviates my poor techniques helps me. Black waters sounds really good too, a 5" radius bubble of rough terrain to really mess up opponents.
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unded
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Post by unded on Aug 25, 2017 19:45:04 GMT
Black waters affects friendly and enemy living models.
Yay for Skarre2!
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Grimolf
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Post by Grimolf on Aug 26, 2017 15:57:19 GMT
I would like it if Black Water would also affect jacks. It would be nice to have shallow water for our crab jacks so they could get a DEF boost vs. ranged.
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Post by gobber on Aug 27, 2017 1:44:41 GMT
There's also Lt. Crosse who is without a doubt the best soul manipulator in the entire game. But somehow he's a Llaelese Warcaster instead of Cryxian. Seriously, I am SO jealous of all of his abilities. Denny3 still has that title by a mile. Gastonne has very little ability to actually fuel any of those abilities. He's mostly reliant on his opponent giving him souls via lifebound which is apparently easy to play around from the early battle reports. |
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Post by Gamingdevil on Aug 29, 2017 12:05:05 GMT
Her abilities are highly situational, so the the thing you're actually playing her for is Tactician, which is amazing, but not worth 5 points. It's good that she's free, but she will see no play whatsoever outside of Ghost Fleet, which is a shame.
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Grimolf
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Post by Grimolf on Aug 29, 2017 14:40:05 GMT
It would be nice to see her get one more thing. I'm not sure what that is, but she does seem to be missing something.
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kuarnix
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Post by kuarnix on Aug 29, 2017 17:10:09 GMT
Is the shallow water bit worded in such a way that would benefit our amphibious 'jacks? I assume not, but it'd be good to check now so they can clear up the wording if it is.
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Post by tesoe on Aug 29, 2017 18:49:20 GMT
Is the shallow water bit worded in such a way that would benefit our amphibious 'jacks? I assume not, but it'd be good to check now so they can clear up the wording if it is. All shallow water is is difficult terrain. Amphibious is just pathfinder that only works in water. |
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Post by gobber on Aug 29, 2017 19:03:11 GMT
Is the shallow water bit worded in such a way that would benefit our amphibious 'jacks? I assume not, but it'd be good to check now so they can clear up the wording if it is. All shallow water is is difficult terrain. Amphibious is just pathfinder that only works in water. Amphibious models also gain concealment when in shallow water which is more the question. From what I can tell, the answer is yes; living amphibious models (wrongeye/snapjaw/attached gator beasts) would gain concealment while in Agrimony's water. Crabjacks are excluded by the wording of Agrimony's ability. |
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kuarnix
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Post by kuarnix on Aug 29, 2017 19:58:45 GMT
Okay, so it has no interaction with friendly models at all then. That's too bad, would have been nice to be able to push concealment onto crabjacks. Just want to make sure the wording doesn't end up with some wonky situation like "enemy models within 5" of agrimony treat open ground as shallow water" with that meaning if they shoot at something else that's on open ground they consider that open ground shallow water, because I assume the intent of the rule is like "enemy models within 5" of agrimony are considered to be in shallow water".
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Post by gobber on Aug 29, 2017 21:54:19 GMT
Okay, so it has no interaction with friendly models at all then. That's too bad, would have been nice to be able to push concealment onto crabjacks. Just want to make sure the wording doesn't end up with some wonky situation like "enemy models within 5" of agrimony treat open ground as shallow water" with that meaning if they shoot at something else that's on open ground they consider that open ground shallow water, because I assume the intent of the rule is like "enemy models within 5" of agrimony are considered to be in shallow water". There's no specification for friendly/enemy. Affects all living models. It would penalize your living cryx models trying to move through it. It would benefit a friendly wrong eye if you include him in your list. |
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Post by Cryptix on Aug 31, 2017 13:51:27 GMT
According to the developers, they really liked my idea of giving Death Field to Agrimony. Well, either that or they liked my idea to remove scourge from Deneghra....
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Grimolf
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Post by Grimolf on Aug 31, 2017 16:33:39 GMT
According to the developers, they really liked my idea of giving Death Field to Agrimony. Well, either that or they liked my idea to remove scourge from Deneghra.... Death Field would be great with her, and would be a reason to take her outside of Ghost Fleet (so long as she's allowed in other themes). |
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