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Post by Falcen on Aug 12, 2017 14:42:51 GMT
They took down a heavy? Seriously? A light I can understand, but a heavy? Well then, I'll definitely consider them. If I remember the math correctly, assuming the get a damage buff, they take out "light" heavies (Legion mirror, Warpwolves, etc.) pretty reliably but against "heavy" heavies (Khador jacks e.g.) they don't make much dent. Their main problem is that they die like infantry and anti-infantry tec is all over the place atm. Also they fit only a few casters (eAbby, eThags, maybe eFyanna/pLylyth), so they're not of a high priority when you're still building up a core collection.
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unded
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Post by unded on Aug 12, 2017 19:40:10 GMT
Just a thought for Oracles - take a good look at blight wasps. I've found that the theme benefit (apparition) gives them a whole new view on the world, and with parasite they punch way above their weight class. I play them in my Fyanna2 Oracles list, and they're been incredible every time. They can typically down a heavy on their own, all for an 8-point unit (provided the 3-point damage swing, of course), and Lyly has that same 3-point damage swing. -und_ed They took down a heavy? Seriously? A light I can understand, but a heavy? Well then, I'll definitely consider them. The math's on their side. Consider a typical heavy, DEF 10-12, ARM 19. You parasite it down to ARM 16, and blight wasps get their MAT up to 8 and POW up to 11 with their pseudo-gang. You charge in with the unit, getting 4 boosted damage rolls. You buy another 2, boosting those damage rolls. That's 6 boosted rolls at dice -5. Assume you roll slightly below average, and you get 10 on each roll. That's still 30 damage, and a typical warmachine heavy has 32 boxes. It gets truly horrendous when the enemy heavy is ARM 18, and even better with Lyly and her feat when facing warbeasts and you can proc a couple of crit poisons (with 6 attacks, you're gonna get a couple). -und_ed
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princeraven
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Post by princeraven on Aug 13, 2017 3:41:28 GMT
Factoring in miss chance I would expect a unit of Blight Wasps with a +3 damage swing to do about 33 damage to an ARM 19 heavy.
I believe Blight Wasps are definitely worth considering over a Bloodseer in Fyanna 2 Oracles, and they're well worth taking with Absylonia 2 in Oracles.
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