Ossyan - Defenders of Ios - 75 pts

You're not capitalizing on the feat enough, you're hoping that the enemy hasn't completely engaged all of your guns ( or killed them or used a feat where they don't work).Here's my thoughts: lormahordes.freeforums.net/thread/1843/ossyan-bat-rep-list-analysis

I'll be posting another Bat Rep from a my Ossyan game in a SR I played in yesterday later today.

Beyond it being a Defenders Theme 75 pt list what elements are you most interested in keeping? The units? The caster? What do you have in mind to pair with this?

Elara is probably your #1 pick because feat is a threat extender and pathfinder fix. She gets them up to POW 16 on mini feat/charge +scything touch. I think the list would see some success there if you swapped Hypnos out for maybe 2 Chimeras and a 3rd arcanist.

Another option I put together would be Issyria. You said you liked the "hit fix" of ossyan. Well her feat is a good answer to cloud walls and she also has threat extension. Sadly, no pathfinder for this list. Points do work out to where if you own or want to swap the 2 manticores and the chimera out for a Hyperion that you're good to go. being able to keep both upkeeps out all game for free plus a -1 cost spell channeled through Hemera(and you can even channel Control RNG spells for -1 cost!) makes it a focus efficient list. Issyria is great at using Blinding Light to keep big threats at bay and 2 shots a turn out of a Hyperion on feat can do a lot of work with ancillary attack. Currently though I think Issyria is working better for the faction in the Shadows theme.

Retribution Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Defenders of Ios

(Issyria 1) Issyria, Sibyl of Dawn [+29]
- Hemera [16]
- Hyperion [36]
- Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker [0(4)]
Arcanist Mechanik [2]
Arcanist Mechanik [2]
Houseguard Thane [0(4)]
Houseguard Thane [4]
Heavy Rifle Team [4]
Heavy Rifle Team [4]
Houseguard Halberdiers (max) [13]
- Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard [4]
- Soulless Escort (1) [1]
Houseguard Halberdiers (max) [13]
- Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard [4]
- Soulless Escort (1) [1]


Another caster who can hit fix is Thyron. He gives you pathfinder with onslaught, spellpiercer to ignore arcane shield etc on their jacks, assail to make a banshee a great choice all game and his personal survivability/killing power is amazing. Against a list with a lot of gun threats you can storm rager yourself and have both fane knights near you to shield guard if needed. Otherwise you can toss it on the Dragoon and launch him across the table to hold a flag, then swapping it over to yourself if needed in the late game. Side step on feat can work great for digging deeper ( with 2" side step and 3" repo you can charge their front lines and dig deeper to engage more stuff/jam) or it can help get a second guy in for the mini feat if you had trouble getting 2 halbs to charge into one target. This list would play well into high defense like Fyanna2. A def 17 angel with dodge won't like a MAT 10 boosted to hit CMA from 2 halbs hitting at POW 16 on the charge. Spell piercer is also great for armor pierce shots of the heavy rifles since they don't halve the damage of armor buffs. After sending the halbs in on the charge their role goes from damage to blocking charge lanes on your heavies and jamming. Your thanes then support your rifles either letting them see stealth or +2" on a model that normally is SPD 3"+1" can be huge. Knocking stuff down with banshee gun or getting a d3"+assail 2" slam can set up some nice shots before committing your big boy. You can use the manticores to covering fire to either protect your halbs from being charged by other infantry or to fill in gaps they couldn't jam.

Retribution Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Defenders of Ios

(Thyron 1) Thyron, Sword of Truth [+27]
- Banshee [18]
- Manticore [14]
- Manticore [14]
- Fane Knight Guardian [0(4)]
Arcanist Mechanik [2]
Arcanist Mechanik [2]
Fane Knight Skeryth Issyen [0(8)]
Houseguard Thane [4]
Houseguard Thane [4]
Heavy Rifle Team [4]
Heavy Rifle Team [4]
Houseguard Halberdiers (max) [13]
- Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard [4]
- Soulless Escort (1) [1]
Houseguard Halberdiers (max) [13]
- Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard [4]
- Soulless Escort (1) [1]

Depending on where you go from here you'd have to look at what factions/types of lists you don't want to put yourself into. A forges of war with Helynna, Vyros2,or Rahn
might be good. Or the aforementioned Issyria Shadows Theme. I played into a Elara2 double halbs and one unit of swordsmen in defenders theme this weekend and it is super fast and is capable of completely jamming your opponent out of the zones to crush them on scenario. Hope this helps.

I know the guy I played against had a fane guardian. He said he didnt find Sylys as usefull. The problem with a phoenix is that its really hard to get a heavy arcnode into a place where you can use it and not let your opponent kill it. If you're just uaing it to move scything touch to the 2nd unit of halbs or casting boundless charge on someone...that should be ok.