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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Jul 25, 2017 16:44:31 GMT
So recently a good friend of mine moved back to the area and after he heard that we play WMH regularly he wanted to get into it, specifically Cygnar. He doesn't have much money to put into the game so I was going to suggest the All-in-One box but I wanted to make sure it's actually a decent army. He has no real intention to be super competitive but I don't want him buy models he won't use. Secondly do you have any advice on building up to 75 from the all in one? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 25, 2017 17:10:19 GMT
The All-In-One is a solid deal, and a good place to start.
You get:
Kara Sloan 28*
-Defender 16
-Defender 16
-Charger 9
-Reinholdt 4
Trencher Infantry 16
-Trencher Infantry Officer and Sniper 5
-3x Trencher Rifle Grenadier 6
Captain Maxwell Finn 6
That gets you a 50 point army, and it's pretty good.
I'd suggest trying it out at 50 points before expanding. Sloan likes Hunters, and Gun Mage Captain Adepts. So those would be good additions afterwards.
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 25, 2017 19:06:55 GMT
Keep in mind the shift toward theme lists. If you want to take gun mages, you basically have to play Sons of the Tempest, so no Trenchers.
Unless he really wants to go the out-of-theme route, I suggest you ask him if he likes Trenchers, gun mages, or Storm Division and plan accordingly from there.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Jul 25, 2017 19:59:45 GMT
Unless he really wants to go the out-of-theme route, I suggest you ask him if he likes Trenchers, gun mages, or Storm Division and plan accordingly from there. I will probably stay away from themes. It always depressing for new players to find a model that they think looks cool only to be told they can't use them plus he is not super interesting in being competitive. Thanks for the advice everyone I'll probably suggest him getting the box. |
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Jul 29, 2017 18:51:13 GMT
So we did end up going with the Cygnar all in one but I was thinking and it would be great to be able to help my friend magnetize his Defenders but I've never done it before as I'm not a Cygnar player myself. Does anyone have any advice/tutorials on how to magnetize that kit specifically.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 29, 2017 19:15:27 GMT
So we did end up going with the Cygnar all in one but I was thinking and it would be great to be able to help my friend magnetize his Defenders but I've never done it before as I'm not a Cygnar player myself. Does anyone have any advice/tutorials on how to magnetize that kit specifically. Magnetizing it for the defender and Ironclad isn't too difficult. But the Cyclone's chain guns are mounted on its forearms. It's also annoying because the Ironclad wields its hammer in the left hand, meaning that there are lots of magnets to be used. Use small diameter magnets because some of the places you need to put them in are thin. Don't worey, the plastic is light so small magnets work fine. Be sure to countersink all magnet locations for a good fit. If you want to magnetize for all 3 jacks, then you'll need magnets in the following places: Left shoulder socket Defender gun Left arm-shoulder connection Right arm-hand connection Left arm-hand connection Left fist Right fist Defender hammer Ironclad hanmer Right forearm Left forearm Both Cyclone Guns Head socket All 3 heads |
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Post by stelios on Aug 1, 2017 12:17:05 GMT
Been working on those myself the past few days and realized something.
You actually do NOT need to magnetize the chainguns. Sticking a little dab of hobby clay inside the "bump" is more than enough to hold them in place and comes out easily after the game is over....in the unlikely event you actually want to play them anyway.
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Post by gmonkey on Aug 1, 2017 12:23:26 GMT
...in the unlikely event you actually want to play them anyway. Cyclone? Man - I was down on that jack for a long time during the start-of-mk3 armor spam days. Then my friend got a siege crawler and started playing forge guard spam. The cyclone is great into that. Considering getting a second one. |
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Aug 1, 2017 23:20:55 GMT
The Cyclone is strong with Caine3, doing more damage per point than a charger during feat turn by a good margin. I don't really like the random rof, but the jack does have a good quantity of attacks for damage buffs.
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Post by sludgeogre on Aug 2, 2017 17:10:36 GMT
My meta is heaaaaavy into big armor and defense, and Legion is the most played faction. Cyclone hasn't seen play since my first couple games as a result.
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Post by slinkdawg on Aug 2, 2017 18:54:18 GMT
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Post by stelios on Aug 6, 2017 2:25:05 GMT
But that said...if you don't want to use the clay trick, a good FLGS will have what you need. Look for the packs of magnets and find the ones that are about the same size as the "bolt" that's part of the sculpt.
You're going to lose some detail doing this either way, but the way I'd do it is to drill into the bolt and either replace it with the magnet (so it's flush) which may cause the chaingun to be a bit loose, or to drill it a bit deeper so that the magnet on the chaingun can fit inside the hole slightly.
Again due to this being on an exterior surface when not in use you may not want to do this if you're picky about having a really great paintjob on your model which can be slightly improved on by putting in the magnet AFTER you paint it so it kind of looks like the bolt on its own.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 7, 2017 7:34:05 GMT
But that said...if you don't want to use the clay trick, a good FLGS will have what you need. Look for the packs of magnets and find the ones that are about the same size as the "bolt" that's part of the sculpt. You're going to lose some detail doing this either way, but the way I'd do it is to drill into the bolt and either replace it with the magnet (so it's flush) which may cause the chaingun to be a bit loose, or to drill it a bit deeper so that the magnet on the chaingun can fit inside the hole slightly. That sounds like what I did when magnetizing a friend's Cyclone. I also used to greenstuff on the guns to try to get them to fit the arm better; it worked, though not quite as well as I had hoped. |
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Post by stelios on Aug 9, 2017 15:48:39 GMT
But seriously, there's no reason to. A tiny dab if clay applied to the inside of the little "bump" on the chaingun will make it stick just fine.
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