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Post by zerohour on Jul 21, 2017 20:52:37 GMT
Retribution has so many options of lists to take it can feel hard to tech for the faction, especially accounting for Issyria who hard counters the TEP, and the axiom to a lesser extent. She is also seeing more play as of late as a soft answer to ghost fleet, in theme which means spammed Jack hunter with stealth.
Checking for this, as well as things like double sentinels, Helena armor spam, and even dark horses like garyth or controlling feats like kalyssa seems like a losing battle. Is there anything you guys feel like we can drop into the match-up that is also a valid bring for the rest of the field? It's mostly blinding light that has me disliking our options.
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Post by rustedgear on Jul 22, 2017 15:38:40 GMT
I usually drop Lucant into Ret. Issyria needs an arc node to apply blinding light and his spell shuts it down. The arc node also needs to be pretty close to get the light off. So you can often just kill the arc node after it goes in.
You have to play around admonition, though, which can be tricky but not impossible.
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Post by zerohour on Jul 22, 2017 16:22:26 GMT
I've definitely been leaning towards Lucant, but it still feels off to me because even just 1 turn of blinding light can be enough a decent amount of the time, at least if I don't take the teps out in ADR. But without the teps orders hard to apply pressure. seems playable but not great for us
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Post by Snorana on Jul 22, 2017 19:57:35 GMT
I think mother with PA and 2-3 Assimilators is good too.
The Arcnode for blinding light can t get too close or you drag and destroy him (the turn before he gets to close) and if caster tries to put it itself with 13" range ground pounder on 3 Assims with the 5" movement (why aim when you don t get the bonus ?), so you are at 18" threat basicaly the caster is dead. If your problem is stealth then ave as many attunement servitors as you can (don t use them t shieldguard) or consider bringing a cipher in your mother list (instead of an assim). And I think with backlash and Scyrah casters not being too tanky and domination and drag you should be ok in case of jack spam or against a lot of MHSF groundpounder rocks.
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