khalany
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by khalany on Jul 20, 2017 9:47:15 GMT
I believe Brisby is the best option for fleet. The main question if it can deal smth else? And if you go with such a anti-fleet list you will probably not face it.))))) So our WTC strategy is just to hide me from it......
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Post by lamoron on Jul 21, 2017 6:25:39 GMT
I think Siege can play into most other Cryx drops, especially if Triumph changes arrive in time. If they dodge me they probably can't dodge the other guy who's prepped for GF, or if they dodge both then we've probably got some much better matchups in every other game. I think Siege can play into some Legion setups as well, but then my track record with Siege is abysmal
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Post by darkangeldentist on Jul 21, 2017 9:17:19 GMT
I think Siege can play into most other Cryx drops, especially if Triumph changes arrive in time. If they dodge me they probably can't dodge the other guy who's prepped for GF, or if they dodge both then we've probably got some much better matchups in every other game. I think Siege can play into some Legion setups as well, but then my track record with Siege is abysmal For no discernible reason I can find Siege seems to fail more often than he has any right to. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck at the WTC (unless you face any of the UK teams) and hope to hear how you got on after the event.
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cain
Junior Strategist
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Post by cain on Jul 21, 2017 11:06:26 GMT
Yes bring us some battle reports when etc is finished. Maybe its so fun, that you stay in game :-)
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khalany
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by khalany on Jul 21, 2017 18:55:18 GMT
I think Siege can play into most other Cryx drops, especially if Triumph changes arrive in time. If they dodge me they probably can't dodge the other guy who's prepped for GF, or if they dodge both then we've probably got some much better matchups in every other game. I think Siege can play into some Legion setups as well, but then my track record with Siege is abysmal Coven also? And fyanna with super speed and def? I don't think so.... but Brisbane can be an answer to some circle... probably.
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Post by lamoron on Jul 24, 2017 7:05:13 GMT
Siege also fails me more than he has any right to (I'm actually defeated with him, if that's the opposite of undefeated). He's the king of almost killing everything, and not being able to apply his presence all the places he needs to be at once, but I think the new Triumph fixes a lot of his issues, being able to deal massive damage with 0 focus investment from Siege, and having a (good) Shield Guard with long ranged guns following him around allowing him to play more aggressively and using Foxhole as an offensive pressure tool.
Coven: Yeah I think he can play into Coven, though I wouldn't favor him in that matchup. He has an answer to occultation, Triumph is accurate enough to scalpel out Arc Nodes, and Cyclones somewhat neuter the whole feat and rush up play.
Fyanna: I do think Siege will get his behind wiped with extra coarse baby bottom wipes in this matchup, but any Fyanna setup will be met by Stryker2 anyway.
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Post by streetpizza on Jul 24, 2017 19:32:11 GMT
The big question regarding siege is will he have enough power to chew through an all banes list under Gaspy2. Siege's feat doesn't really have the coverage you need to eliminate an infantry list that sits at those kind of armor values and even if you do Gaspy's feat will put a bunch of banes on your heavies pretty trivially.
Personally the way I see the cryx meta shaping up right now I would be looking at Nemo 3 built with storm smiths instead of storm knights. Double storm striders with a hurricane and fireflies and fill out the rest with storm towers/callers to taste. Denny will need to respect the assassination threat and will not be able to stand within 4" of anything in her army. Hurricane allows simple arcing of chain lightnings and the AOE gun will do a number on the revenant crew with Arlan providing it magic weapons. The banes list will just melt to the feat turn.
Start testing with this and take it from there:
Cygnar Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm Division
(Nemo 3) Artificer General Nemo [+25] - Firefly [8] - Hurricane [39] - Squire [0(5)] Captain Arlan Strangewayes [0(4)] Journeyman Warcaster [4] - Firefly [8] Stormsmith Stormcaller (3) [5] Storm Strider [18] Storm Strider [18]
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Post by lamoron on Jul 25, 2017 5:52:45 GMT
I don't own any Stormstriders, and I'm quitting the game after this WTC, so investing hundreds of dollars is not really in the cards. I can borrow the odd model I need to tweak lists, and I have an extensive collection, but something like two Stormstriders is unlikely. Appreciate the idea though
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jul 25, 2017 8:13:03 GMT
I think if you could place Fox Hole over friendly models then Siege would go up in my estimations
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Post by lamoron on Jul 25, 2017 10:43:14 GMT
It occurs to me that Sloan has Dust to Dust. If I bring a Lancer she should be able to remove 2/3 leaders of Revenant Crews with spells, while staying fairly safe. Might be worth exploring.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jul 25, 2017 10:48:51 GMT
It occurs to me that Sloan has Dust to Dust. If I bring a Lancer she should be able to remove 2/3 leaders of Revenant Crews with spells, while staying fairly safe. Might be worth exploring. Yeah I was considering Sloan with a Lancer for the Ghost Fleet match up, probably only get 1 shot out of it though, even if you protect it with covering fire, with Parasite, Feat, shooting and Stalkers it will die. Gotta make sure you get to 2 leaders to make it worthwhile
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Post by lamoron on Jul 25, 2017 12:16:46 GMT
It occurs to me that Sloan has Dust to Dust. If I bring a Lancer she should be able to remove 2/3 leaders of Revenant Crews with spells, while staying fairly safe. Might be worth exploring. Yeah I was considering Sloan with a Lancer for the Ghost Fleet match up, probably only get 1 shot out of it though, even if you protect it with covering fire, with Parasite, Feat, shooting and Stalkers it will die. Gotta make sure you get to 2 leaders to make it worthwhile Yeah it's fire and forget for sure. I'll try out Siege first, then Sloan if he fails too badly.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jul 25, 2017 13:01:06 GMT
Yeah I was considering Sloan with a Lancer for the Ghost Fleet match up, probably only get 1 shot out of it though, even if you protect it with covering fire, with Parasite, Feat, shooting and Stalkers it will die. Gotta make sure you get to 2 leaders to make it worthwhile Yeah it's fire and forget for sure. I'll try out Siege first, then Sloan *when* he fails too badly. fixed that for you
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Post by streetpizza on Jul 25, 2017 13:01:19 GMT
...I don't own any Stormstriders, and I'm quitting the game after this WTC, ... Profound sadness
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Post by lamoron on Jul 25, 2017 19:46:03 GMT
...I don't own any Stormstriders, and I'm quitting the game after this WTC, ... Profound sadness It's been a long road, but the game just isn't for me anymore, which is sad because the core rules have never been better. I'll check in on everything once in a while and see if things have changed
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