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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 18, 2017 22:42:51 GMT
Yes. Rip of Siege2 entirely... Yes, of course, because MoW armor is SO cygnaran... who ripped who? Siege2 recently went through CID. He went from a small to medium base, his armor is bulkier than before, and he got a jump pack from a Minuteman. I was merely saying that Sorcha having jump would make her too similar to Siege. I would prefer that there be some difference between the two.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jul 18, 2017 23:08:54 GMT
I was merely saying that Sorcha having jump would make her too similar to Siege. I would prefer that there be some difference between the two. There is not gonna be a jump pack, but Sieges armor looks amazingly similar to MOW armor.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 18, 2017 23:14:30 GMT
I was merely saying that Sorcha having jump would make her too similar to Siege. I would prefer that there be some difference between the two. There is not gonna be a jump pack, but Sieges armor looks amazingly similar to MOW armor. Perhaps he was inspired when Butcher almost cut him in half?
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Jul 18, 2017 23:18:40 GMT
Perhaps he was inspired when Butcher almost cut him in half? The butcher doesn't wear MOW armor. He wears a repurposed warjack body. Its pure Cygnarian theft.
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 18, 2017 23:49:46 GMT
I do love the butcher.
Irusk2 "There is no point putting on my warcaster armour because Orsus will kill me if he fancies it."
Siege "Oh crap. I'll defend myself with my hammer. Oh no I won't."
Stryker "Well I could overcharge my armour. But is there much point?"
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Post by steamwitch on Jul 19, 2017 2:17:59 GMT
Hmm...odd...
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Post by Blargaliscious on Jul 19, 2017 2:34:00 GMT
Pictured: Khadoran way of speeding up MoW, just pretend it's smaller. And red. And an actual MoW. Khador Space Program, Man o War good protected from cosmic radiation, swans cannot into space. This video proves the same thing that the F4 Phantom proved: if you put big enough engines on it, you can make a brick fly.
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Post by benkei on Jul 19, 2017 4:16:02 GMT
Perhaps he was inspired when Butcher almost cut him in half? The butcher doesn't wear MOW armor. He wears a repurposed warjack body. Its pure Cygnarian theft. That's Karchev. Unless you mean Butcher is a biological warjack, which could be the case.
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Post by Havock on Jul 19, 2017 4:49:54 GMT
This video proves the same thing that the F4 Phantom proved: if you put big enough engines on it, you can make a brick fly. If your thrust-to-weight ratio is shit. Apply more thrust.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 19, 2017 7:54:32 GMT
The butcher doesn't wear MOW armor. He wears a repurposed warjack body. Its pure Cygnarian theft. That's Karchev. Unless you mean Butcher is a biological warjack, which could be the case. I believe that fluff-wise Butcher's armour is made from a warjack hull because he's too big for standard armour to fit him. I agree that Sorscha is unlikely to have Jump, but she might still have Wind Rush or Cyclone or something similar. Perhaps even a teleport? But to be honest I'm not sure she should: the fact is that she's not going to play the same as she used to, and she probably shouldn't since what's the point then, right? So how "should" she play? MOW are all about being tough, right? So will she enhance that, or will she shore up their weaknesses instead? If she's going to shore up their weaknesses, then what weaknesses do they have that she could help with? I'm thinking: -They are kinda slow. Speed boost is the most obvious thing. Perhaps an aura rather than a one-unit upkeep (so different from Strak2)? -Low volume of attacks. Any ability that grants extra attacks could probably help. People have mentioned Vengeance? -Not enough damage output for cracking serious armour. Damage buffs are commonplace in Khador though, so this alone wouldn't make her a special MOW caster. -Vulnerable to magic/control effects? -Lack of pathfinder?
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Post by benkei on Jul 19, 2017 8:29:30 GMT
The more you know...
Anyway, even if casters change when they go epic/re-epic, they always retain their core style, which in sorscha's case I think is mobility and ice
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 19, 2017 8:40:35 GMT
Spray Ice cannon with stationary?
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 19, 2017 8:46:54 GMT
Anyway, even if casters change when they go epic/re-epic, they always retain their core style, which in sorscha's case I think is mobility and ice I don't know, I feel like that was true in MkII with caster like sSorscha, eIrusk etc. being very close to their prime versions, but I feel like PP has been moving away from that paradigm, ever since they started putting third versions on different base sizes. Take for example Strak2: he has similar themes to Strak1 (stealth, speed, hit-and-run), but I don't think you can say that he actually plays in a similar way? I don't really know yet, but I feel like Old Witch 2/3 doesn't play particularly close to what she did back before she was riding around on a house, even if she maintained some of her core "themes" (crows, weather, magic). So while I fully expect Man-O-Warscha to have strong "ice" elements, and I would be surprised if she didn't bring some sort of speed buff, I wouldn't be surprised if her gameplay was a significant departure from how S1 and S2 play. I'm not exactly saying I expect her to play a completely different game, but... well, I don't think she's going to be the same "float like a butterfly sting like a bee" assassin now that she's wearing more steel than John Henry Irons and leading some of the slowest troops in the game.
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Post by benkei on Jul 19, 2017 8:51:17 GMT
Fly like a brick, sting like a brick
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Post by Cryptix on Jul 19, 2017 13:05:50 GMT
Is there any possiblity she might bring Dash and Deceleration to the table?
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