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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 14, 2017 19:38:51 GMT
youtu.be/H2IwzOneJuMTrencher Gun Mage Scattergunner solo? Looks kinda neat. If he's in SotT, I'd probably consider him for a free solo spot. He has: -Rat 7 -Recipricate -Run & Gun -sp8 pow 12 magic damage
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Post by Korianneder on Jul 14, 2017 19:42:36 GMT
What does reciprocate do? I'm not familiar with that rule.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 14, 2017 19:46:06 GMT
What does reciprocate do? I'm not familiar with that rule. It was new to me as well. Lord Longfellow has it. "When it is missed by an enemy ranged attack, immediately after the attack is resolved this model can make one basic ranged attack against the attacking model"
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 14, 2017 19:46:51 GMT
If ghost fleet persists, he might be a good add for Gravediggers as well.
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Post by bluebarren on Jul 14, 2017 20:21:37 GMT
I dont think that hes confirmed as trencher at all...
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 14, 2017 20:25:29 GMT
I dont think that hes confirmed as trencher at all... It's not confirmed that he's a gun mage either. But his clothes look like a fusion of trencher gear and gun mage aesthetic. And the scattergun is a trencher weapon. I think there's fair reason for him to be both. We'll see.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 14, 2017 21:23:45 GMT
I dont think that hes confirmed as trencher at all... It's not confirmed that he's a gun mage either. But his clothes look like a fusion of trencher gear and gun mage aesthetic. And the scattergun is a trencher weapon. I think there's fair reason for him to be both. We'll see. Actually, his coat is basically identical of the ones of the Arcane Tempest Riflemans, so I think it's fair to presume it will not be a Trencher, but just an AT Gun Mage:
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 14, 2017 21:42:51 GMT
Oh well, I guess he'll be fine as just a gun mage. First character gun mage. That's kinda neat. Unfortunately, all he's adding to SotT is more infantry murder. Not that exciting.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 14, 2017 21:59:34 GMT
Yeah. Without shooting types I'm not sure that we need him particulary in a theme of gun meges, but let's see how it comes in CID. Gun & Run is interesting, and maybe if he is meh we will be able to give our feedbacks to improve him there.
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Post by Haight on Jul 15, 2017 11:48:48 GMT
INteresting. The Aesthetic to me says new Gun Mage type, even if just solo. Neat. I sort of always wanted Gun Mages with blunderbusses / shotguns. Stormsmith Dropout - as a very minor note, Caine is a gunmage, but yes, first non-warcaster character gun mage. I apologize peremptorily for my pedantry.
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 15, 2017 12:06:58 GMT
Only for a scattergun there is no place him. He needs some utility to be usable.
Anyway, I didn't expect that there is a gun mage that choose a shotgun.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 15, 2017 12:42:27 GMT
INteresting. The Aesthetic to me says new Gun Mage type, even if just solo. Neat. I sort of always wanted Gun Mages with blunderbusses / shotguns. Stormsmith Dropout - as a very minor note, Caine is a gunmage, but yes, first non-warcaster character gun mage. I apologize peremptorily for my pedantry. Actually... To be the king of Pedantry... The Black 13 are 3 non-warcaster character gun mages.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 15, 2017 12:45:51 GMT
That said, I could actually see a place for him with Caine2. With Fire for Effect that scattergun would be big.
The problem, like usual, is the comparisons with other things. Tr. Commandos have the same scatterguns, just not magical, so he really needs some sort of utility.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 15, 2017 13:03:11 GMT
Sloan's a gun mage as well, right?
I don't mind the pedantry.
What I was trying to say was he'll be our 4th option for a free model in SotT. And he's also a character.
I don't know how well he'll hold up to the others. An adept is always better value. And Riflemen provide a very useful ability outside of killing infantry.
At least, I'd take Falk over the Gun Mage CA.
Let's wait and see. Hopefully we can smooth talk PP into giving him some kind of buff ability for gun mages. Maybe grant them immunity to blast within 4" of him.
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Post by Haight on Jul 15, 2017 15:39:43 GMT
Ya know what, prior to the arcane tempest riflemen there was a debate on this whether she was or not. It seemed to never crop up again once they arrived on scene. I would go with Yes, though if there is a fluff source that says no, i will not tear my hair out nor beat my breast Illiad style. Also just so we're clear, i use pedantry as a stupid source of humor. I could give two fuqs on such inconsequential factual accuracy. Agreed though: If he's as relatively good as a GMCA or a ATR, he'll be a solid addition. Also, spray solo. Almost ubiquitously not a bad thing if its rng 8 - 10 in cygnar. I cannot tell you how much ancillary mileage i've gotten out of Arlan's spray in my day.
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