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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 14, 2017 0:40:50 GMT
Can a warbeast (like an Angelius or Scythean) still use its other initials/buy attacks after using a special attack such as armor pierce? I know a Scythean couldn't use thresher twice or something like that, but I wasn't sure about just normal attacks. In addition, could a model with multiple initials choose to use the special attack at a later point? (Example: Angelius, on Rhyas 1's feat, hops over a model it damaged to get to the enemy warlock/warcaster, and then uses its armor piercing attack to make its damage output higher)
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Post by princeraven on Jul 14, 2017 1:50:57 GMT
No, you sacrifice all of your initials to do a *Attack.
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Post by mallios on Jul 14, 2017 2:04:41 GMT
However, if the *attack is a melee attack, you can buy more melee attack after you do it.
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Post by DanX on Jul 14, 2017 11:15:25 GMT
So with an Angelius - I usually Charge for free with an AP attack, boosting to hit. Then buy another attack, boosting damage. Then buy another attack, which I can't boost - or just not bother. Or if vs things that Power 14 should kill, just buy 4 more attacks and don't use the AP, so have 6 attacks. Go Angelius.
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 15, 2017 19:10:08 GMT
However, if the *attack is a melee attack, you can buy more melee attack after you do it. Oh good to know! That makes for a fun strategy with Rhyas1 and the angelius... |
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Post by snotling on Jul 15, 2017 19:16:33 GMT
However, if the *attack is a melee attack, you can buy more melee attack after you do it. Oh good to know! That makes for a fun strategy with Rhyas1 and the angelius... And that would be? You can't buy *attacks. You can only buy normal melee attacks after making a *attack. So you only get mat6 pow 14 into what ever the angelius ports to. If you want the "charge sonething, place behind it and attack the caster" assasination. Protheus and scythean are your go to beasts. There are very few casters that can survive 6 attacks from a scythean. |
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 15, 2017 21:13:21 GMT
Oh good to know! That makes for a fun strategy with Rhyas1 and the angelius... And that would be? You can't buy *attacks. You can only buy normal melee attacks after making a *attack. So you only get mat6 pow 14 into what ever the angelius ports to. If you want the "charge sonething, place behind it and attack the caster" assasination. Protheus and scythean are your go to beasts. There are very few casters that can survive 6 attacks from a scythean. True, but (I think) I can save the armor piercing tail for after the teleport, if I use my bite attack first. I could be wrong, though. |
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Post by snotling on Jul 15, 2017 21:31:30 GMT
You are.
You can only make your *attack instead of ALL your initials. And only buy after your initials. So *attack first or not at all.
I wish it were different xD
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Post by princeraven on Jul 16, 2017 12:58:23 GMT
The attack generated by Rhyas 1's feat is an additional attack, not an initial attack, you cannot forfeit it to do a *attack.
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 16, 2017 23:30:54 GMT
The attack generated by Rhyas 1's feat is an additional attack, not an initial attack, you cannot forfeit it to do a *attack. So then I could get away with it? I'm getting mixed signals here lol. |
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 17, 2017 0:39:31 GMT
The attack generated by Rhyas 1's feat is an additional attack, not an initial attack, you cannot forfeit it to do a *attack. So then I could get away with it? I'm getting mixed signals here lol. The proper sequence is this: Forfeit your inital Tail and Bite attack for the *AP Attack. You get 1 free normal attack from Rhyas' feat. Assuming you didn't charge or did so for free, you now have up to 4 fury to buy/boost attacks. |
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Post by josephkerr on Jul 17, 2017 1:07:32 GMT
During your Combat Action, you may make initial attacks OR make a special attack, ie Armor Pierce. After completing either, you may make additional attacks. Rhyas1's feat grants additional attacks. It's worth noting that her feat placement is on basic attack, so u can charge in and *attack, then use ur feat attack to place b2b to an enemy. While not incredibly useful on an Angelius, as theyll AP, boost damage on the feat swing, then most likely repulse, this interaction is useful on Zuriel, allowing him to ComboStike a heavy, feat swing against a single wound infantry to place out of combat with the damaged heavy, then quick work off killing that infantry.
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 17, 2017 4:23:30 GMT
So then I could get away with it? I'm getting mixed signals here lol. The proper sequence is this: Forfeit your inital Tail and Bite attack for the *AP Attack. You get 1 free normal attack from Rhyas' feat. Assuming you didn't charge or did so for free, you now have up to 4 fury to buy/boost attacks. Okay but if I use the feat attack first, would that mean I could use the AP attack later as the feat attack doesn't count as an initial, correct? |
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Post by princeraven on Jul 17, 2017 4:36:43 GMT
You cannot use the feat attack first, additional attacks come after your initials.
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Post by josephkerr on Jul 17, 2017 4:52:27 GMT
The proper sequence is this: Forfeit your inital Tail and Bite attack for the *AP Attack. You get 1 free normal attack from Rhyas' feat. Assuming you didn't charge or did so for free, you now have up to 4 fury to buy/boost attacks. Okay but if I use the feat attack first, would that mean I could use the AP attack later as the feat attack doesn't count as an initial, correct? "additional attack" is actually a game term. All additional attacks are made during a model's Combat Action after either initials or a *attack, and cannot be made before either. |
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