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Post by Lord_Randall on Jul 30, 2017 5:00:32 GMT
Trackers are still good they're just not AS good. The loss of repo definitely stings though. Yeh this. If they still had Repo i'd be so so happy with that unit. Main problem with trakers is: cmd 7 and rng 7. If you want to concentrare damage into something they end to be too much clumpled, easy target for blast/sprays/leaps. |
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Post by gimli on Jul 30, 2017 8:00:08 GMT
That's my biggest gripe with them as well. Other than that they are as good as they ever were.
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Post by Lord_Randall on Jul 30, 2017 8:33:50 GMT
Anyway I think Circle is in a bad spot because can build strong lists but not a good paring.
We lacks a meta bending list and some of our answer are too specialyzed.
I love Circle, is as always super-fun and rewarding to play. But i don't think it fits the competitive meta any more.
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Post by gimli on Jul 30, 2017 9:13:40 GMT
Interesting. I'm currently of the opposite mindset, however if you would have asked me that about 2 months ago i would have 100% agreed with you.
I don't know how much of that is optimism or delusion at this stage because i seem to be at odds with the general feeling of the Circle community of late, so rather than go into it too much i'll see what i think after the UK Nationals in September. That will be a 3 list event so it won't be able to test the Circle pairing but i'm taking my usual pairing +1 anyway. I do have a tournament this coming Saturday so i'll see what happens.
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Post by Lord_Randall on Jul 30, 2017 11:51:29 GMT
I'm not delusional at all, this year i got my personal best result at a big event losing against Maukish (6th game,2nd table) at the Italian Masters. A well deserved lost against a player much stronger then me.
But i know i had a lot of luck in dodging Kharchev, Amon, Vyros2 and Axis both days.
And this thing leaves a bitter taste in mouth.
I'm going to try hard as usual to make Circle works, but truth need to be told, We have a long list of near-autoloose match, and all The trouble come because We lack the tools to handle boxspam with a list suited for a paring.
Causes are a lot, but our deadly sin is a combination of fragility and lack of treathrange and hitting power.
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Post by gimli on Jul 30, 2017 20:23:09 GMT
Sorry, i meant i was delusional about Circle being in a decent spot, not you.
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Post by Lord_Randall on Jul 31, 2017 5:19:28 GMT
Sorry, i meant i was delusional about Circle being in a decent spot, not you. No problem, I misunderstood. English isn't my language... Anyway best luck for the UK nationals. You are going to stream the event? |
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Post by jisidro on Jul 31, 2017 7:58:34 GMT
... I'm going to try hard as usual to make Circle works, but truth need to be told, We have a long list of near-autoloose match, and all The trouble come because We lack the tools to handle boxspam with a list suited for a paring. Causes are a lot, but our deadly sin is a combination of fragility and lack of treathrange and hitting power. ...
Would the loss of Siege Weapon on the Marauder help this issue with the Baldur2 Gargossal ARM spam?
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Post by zwergenkrieger on Jul 31, 2017 8:29:23 GMT
... I'm going to try hard as usual to make Circle works, but truth need to be told, We have a long list of near-autoloose match, and all The trouble come because We lack the tools to handle boxspam with a list suited for a paring. Causes are a lot, but our deadly sin is a combination of fragility and lack of treathrange and hitting power. ...
Would the loss of Siege Weapon on the Marauder help this issue with the Baldur2 Gargossal ARM spam?
Too few attacks. One Woldwrath is just able to delete ONE Khador jack per turn. 30+ points to delete 10-14 points? Circle simply can´t trade heavies. A friend of mne started the game with Circle and he is heavily frustrated because in our group there is lots and lots of jack/beast spam. It´s hard for him to compete. |
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Post by jisidro on Jul 31, 2017 8:56:27 GMT
Would the loss of Siege Weapon on the Marauder help this issue with the Baldur2 Gargossal ARM spam?
Too few attacks. One Woldwrath is just able to delete ONE Khador jack per turn. 30+ points to delete 10-14 points? Circle simply can´t trade heavies. A friend of mne started the game with Circle and he is heavily frustrated because in our group there is lots and lots of jack/beast spam. It´s hard for him to compete.
Tell him to play Krueger2 assassination, probably his best chance n a game like that...
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Post by zwergenkrieger on Jul 31, 2017 10:35:13 GMT
Too few attacks. One Woldwrath is just able to delete ONE Khador jack per turn. 30+ points to delete 10-14 points? Circle simply can´t trade heavies. A friend of mne started the game with Circle and he is heavily frustrated because in our group there is lots and lots of jack/beast spam. It´s hard for him to compete.
Tell him to play Krueger2 assassination, probably his best chance n a game like that...
Ao what are the basics of Krueger2 Assassination? To me he doesn't offer strong tools. |
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Post by jisidro on Jul 31, 2017 11:51:06 GMT
Tell him to play Krueger2 assassination, probably his best chance n a game like that...
Ao what are the basics of Krueger2 Assassination? To me he doesn't offer strong tools.
What?
- TK alone makes him a viable assassin enabler, Gallows is also a viable tool (especially in desperation)... Add that to Geomancy and you have some scary angles. - He, personally can deliver 3 boosted POW 12 which can make some squishier casters scarred. This is not a lot but it's far from nothing. - Add Loki, Megalith, Gethotix and as long as you can reach a caster not much will keep him alive.
Not saying it's a game winner against box/heavy/arm spam but it's a way to play. Toe-to-Toe you're going nowhere, especially with the circle is fast falacy still alive and kicking.
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Post by Lord_Randall on Jul 31, 2017 13:31:05 GMT
... I'm going to try hard as usual to make Circle works, but truth need to be told, We have a long list of near-autoloose match, and all The trouble come because We lack the tools to handle boxspam with a list suited for a paring. Causes are a lot, but our deadly sin is a combination of fragility and lack of treathrange and hitting power. ...
Would the loss of Siege Weapon on the Marauder help this issue with the Baldur2 Gargossal ARM spam?
I don't like huge base... I don't think is going to change my matchup. But anything that reduce the cheaper jacks appeal is a good thing for Circle. Circle is fast... protectorate like fast! 😂 |
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Post by unded on Jul 31, 2017 13:59:30 GMT
If you're playing into jack-spam, surely the answer is Griffon-spam?
choose your flavour of either Kaya3 or Una2, and go nuts. Una2 is better as a generalist list, while Kaya3 griffon-spam is great as a targeted spec into box-spam.
-und_ed
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Post by jisidro on Jul 31, 2017 16:05:39 GMT
If you're playing into jack-spam, surely the answer is Griffon-spam? choose your flavour of either Kaya3 or Una2, and go nuts. Una2 is better as a generalist list, while Kaya3 griffon-spam is great as a targeted spec into box-spam. -und_ed Not so sure... A 10pt marauder charges and boosts hit for 3d6+7...its rough |
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